The war
clearly does not meet just war conditions.
First, the U.S. cannot claim a just cause. President Trump claims that “our objective is
to defend the American people by eliminating imminent threats from the Iranian
regime.” This is absurd. There is no imminent threat to the United
States, and no evidence for one has been produced. Even when the U.S. killed Iran’s General Soleimani
in 2020 and bombed Iran last year, the Iranians did not retaliate in any
serious way. The president presents a
laundry list of past Iranian offenses, but he never took these to be a cause
for war during his first administration, or for a wider war last year. They are obviously a pretext rather than the
true casus belli.
Nor is the
aim of destroying Iran’s nuclear capability a plausible cause for war. Again, we were told last year that that job
had already been done, and that no one who said otherwise should be listened
to. That was either a grave intelligence
error or (more likely) standard Trump-style humbug. Why should we trust the administration now if
we could not trust them then? Nor, in
any event, does Iran pose any nuclear threat to the United States. If it poses such a threat to Israel, Israel
is perfectly capable of handling the problem on its own. Furthermore, a war with Iran could cause oil
prices to spike – thus damaging the U.S. economy – and, as American military
officials have been warning, will deplete U.S. munitions stockpiles, leaving us
more vulnerable in other parts of the world.
U.S. involvement is neither necessary nor in our interests, and for
anyone who supports the president’s “America First” rhetoric, that should be
all that needs to be said.
The
administration’s defenders will nevertheless insist that war is justified because
Iran could someday pose a threat to the U.S., or a threat to Israel that would
require U.S. assistance to counter. But
this is not a just cause for war. As I
noted when criticizing last year’s operation, while “preemptive war” can be
justifiable under just war criteria, “preventive war” cannot be. For example, if Iran were actually in the
process of preparing an attack against America, we could justifiably preempt it
with an attack of our own. But we cannot
justifiably attack any country simply because it might at some point in the future decide to harm us.
The
president also claims to be motivated by a desire to free the Iranian people
from a tyrannical government. In the
abstract, that can certainly be a just war aim.
But it is not by itself enough for a just cause for war. There needs to be some specific, well thought
out plan for achieving this aim. And it
has to be a plan that we can reasonably believe both (a) won’t make things even
worse for the Iranian people, and (b) won’t draw the U.S. into a quagmire that
is against its own interests.
We have been
given no reason to believe that this condition has been met, and we have good reason
to believe that it has not been met.
U.S. intervention in Venezuela was also sold as an exercise in liberation. But so far, the people of Venezuela have seen
no liberation. Maduro is gone, but his
government and its malign ideology remain in place. The president has shown far more interest in
Venezuela’s oil than in the good of its people.
Only someone very naïve could take the rhetoric about liberating Iran
without a pinch of salt. It may occur
and we should certainly hope it occurs, but we cannot have confidence that U.S.
operations are primarily aimed at making sure it occurs. Furthermore, it looks likely that the U.S.
hopes to achieve its ends by the use of air power alone. That is highly unlikely to result in a
successful regime change operation – where success entails that the country
does not either fall into chaos or simply replace one bad regime with another.
In short, a
long-term “boots on the ground” operation would manifestly be against U.S.
interests, whereas more limited, short-term operations have
a tendency to create problems they cannot by themselves solve. It follows that the U.S. should simply stay
out of internal Iranian affairs, which are none of our business.
The war also
does not meet the “lawful authority” condition of just war. As I
argued when criticizing U.S. intervention in Venezuela, in the context of
the American political system, meeting this condition requires seeking and getting
congressional approval. The Trump administration
has done neither. One can quibble over
the extent to which the Constitution and War Powers Act give the president
discretion to deal with imminent threats and small-scale, short-term
operations. But with Iran, we face no
imminent threat, and the prospect of a major conflict aimed at regime
change. It is
manifestly precisely the sort of thing the Constitution means to permit
only after congressional deliberation and approval.
Of course, it could turn out that we get lucky, and the regime is toppled and replaced with a stable and significantly more just government, without grave harm to the Iranian people or U.S. casualties. But merely crossing one’s fingers is not a rational way to enter into a war. For a war to be morally legitimate, that there are realistic prospects of success must be established before the fact, and a lucky break cannot retroactively make just what was entered into unjustly. Nor could a good outcome by itself suffice to justify a war in any case. The other conditions of just war doctrine must be met as well. To suppose otherwise is to think along consequentialist lines, or perhaps in the spirit of Nietzsche’s dictum that “a good war hallows any cause.” No Christian or respecter of the natural law can have any truck with such a mentality.

ReplyDeleteIt may not impact your argument but it is useful to realize that this war is as much about China as it is about Iran. Both Venezuela and Iran (and Cuba) are major suppliers of oil to China. The administration, despite being led by a child, is playing a longer game, pivoting towards Asia in terms of its foreign policy. Of course it cannot say this out loud. The moral question then becomes is the containment of China a morally responsible action.
Very true and well said but as you also noted that is another question. Attempting to live a moral life in a fallen world is getting harder and harder. As much as I might like to just say this appears good for the United States of America, it is not just.
DeleteWe are attempting to destroy China's Road and Belt infrastructure that they have erected in both countries every bit as much as attempting regime change.
DeleteThis is a very good point. The US government perceives China to be the leading figure in the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) coalition which is its major geo-political threat. The actions in Venezuela, Iran, and Cuba are connected. So also are the USA's actions in Latin America more generally. India has made some moves away from its BRICS partners. The global situation for communist China has deteriorated very badly from what it was 18 months ago. As someone who attended a mainly Taiwanese Church for seven years, I view this as a positive development.
DeleteI made an error above. Cuba is not a major supplier of oil to China. What I meant to say is that the attention being given to Cuba now is a result of fear about their ties to China. Cuba is next on the list.
DeleteOh, really? Then why has the Administration not bothered to actually say anything about that? It sounds like you're just doing apologetics for the Trump Regime. Besides, "they are friendly to our enemies" is not a valid reason for dropping bombs on people.
DeleteEXE, since you care so much about hardline Islamist factions perhaps you should volunteer for Fakestine and friends.
DeleteAh yes, the "I hope the IDF kills you" response. Hamas are nationalist rebels that happen to live in a conservative Islamic community. This is not the same thing as being an Islamist. To put this in another context, this would be like claiming that the Polish Resistance in WW2 were Catholic Theocrats.
DeleteYea because the Polish resistance totally raided aid caravans with food and medicine, and blamed malfunctioning rockets striking children's hospitals on their opponent. Ridiculous and false take.
DeleteHow many terrorist attacks, or IEDs constitute a just cause? Have you ever heard of hybrid war? Do you hear Starmer say that recently the UK foiled 20 Iranian attacks UK soil? How many assassinations does Iran have to try in the US before we respond?
ReplyDeleteGood questions, anonymous. The answer, for many, is no amount of these could constitute just cause if Trump is the one carrying it out.
DeleteOne criteria for just war is that no other means will deter the threat. Foiled attacks mean that war is not necessary because lesser means are working.
DeleteWell written, As I was reading it, it occurred to me 3/4 of the way through that I disagreed with about 90% of what shared. Que sera sera.
ReplyDeleteYep. This is not a good take by Dr. Feser.
DeleteFeser is usually excellent, but I agree. This post will live in infamy.
DeleteVery enriching and insightful, anons. Keep it up.
DeleteLast January the IRGC killed 30,000 people protesting on the streets. What is your threshold for striking them? Killing 1/6 of the country's population like the Khmer Rouge did?
ReplyDeleteHow much propaganda can you ingest?
DeleteMy understanding is that protecting the Iranian people from their government would be a just cause to attack the regime. But it is only one of the requirements for a Just War.
DeleteAre you in denial of the regime’s bloodthirstiness?
DeleteWho was responsible for the Khmer Rouge coming to Power?
DeleteThat could certainly be a justifiable cause, but Trump has an obligation to gain congressional approval to declare war and must demonstrate a plan and a realistic chance at success. He can't just unilaterally take us to war.
DeleteFeser address this in his argument. Supporting the people against a tyrannical government could be a legitimate reason for war according to Feser. However, nothing about how the administration is carrying out the war suggests that the Iranian people will be liberated at the end. He also uses the example of Venezuela which we "liberated" only to leave it in the hands of the Maduro administration.
DeleteI am an American who was in Israel on October 7th when Hamas (one of Iran's proxies) committed murders, rapes, abductions, etc which much of the Western media sought to suppress or minimize. I am glad for Sha'agat HaAri, "Roar of the Lion" (the name given by the IDF for the most recent operation, eliminating Khameni and about 40 other Iranian leaders). I am glad for America's role in this which may well be providential, at least in part. Trump's first trip as President was to Saudi Arabia. That and the Abraham Accords have paid dividends. In the last 24 hours, Saudi Arabia condemned Iran rather than Israel or the USA (whom the Iranian Ayatollas dubbed the little Satan and the great Satan, respectively) rather than Iran for the conflict. There is more hope than I have ever seen that the current regime in Iran can be toppled without major backlash from Muslim nations in the region. If that happens, I shall not be much bothered if it violated Catholic just war tradition. Many actions in the Hebrew Scriptures and the Deuterocanonical Books which seem to violate Catholic just war theory don't seem to trouble the biblical narrators.
ReplyDeleteYou’re in luck, since this certainly doesn’t violate the tradition. Ed’s a bit off his rocker here, to be blunt.
Delete"I shall not be much bothered if it violated Catholic just war tradition."
DeleteI am sorry Tim, but in the biblical scenarios you mention , it's usually God himself directly commanding certain actions, Catholic Theology would draw a distinction between that and natural scenarios which natural law governs. Just War Theory is catholic only in so far as it has found concrete and through expression in the Church's perennial tradition but it's something that an atheist could coherently endorse, in that sense there's nothing per se catholic about it.
A cause of war has to be just, in order to be just, it has to be known to be just, proportionate in response to the violated right, reasonable chances of success i.e it shouldn't result in greater evils then the one's it's seeking to address,it should be the last resort.
The second criterion is Lawful Authority. In the Case of USA, it is Congress which was bypassed in this case so this war has not met that criteria, if any Iranian strike on the USA was imminent it should have been informed to the public.
The Third Criteria is Right Intention, there a lot of reports that this war is being conducted more on behalf of Israel's interests then that of the USA, which would be intolerable if it it turns out to be true.
And the last criteria is Right Means, Innocent people should not be directly targeted. Initial reports seem to indicate that a girls school in Iran was hit intentionally on pretext of harbouring some munitions resulting in the death of 40 children, if it turns out to be true it would violate the just means criteria.
Keeping aside all the doubtful points, on grounds of it failing the reasonable chances of success and last resort, we know it doesn't meet the Just cause criterion.
The fact that we have no clue whatsoever of the aftermath and by all indications it's just as likely someone worse will take over if not more likely, means it fails to meet the reasonable chances of success.
If you don't know whether there's a human or animal in the bush, you just don't take the shot.
It wasn't the last resort because they were getting a better nuclear deal then Obama with no enrichment and offer to give up all enriched uranium. So there were other options.
The government also failed to articulate the reasons to the public which would be a requirement of the cause being known to be just,thus at the very least giving the impression of legitimising acting on the whims and fancies of one man which is detrimental for a polity.
As you can see there's nothing essentially catholic about. Just plain common sense. An atheist could endorse every point I have made coherently.
When all of this is done, you will pretend that you never supported Israel.
DeleteNorm,
DeleteLet's just take the third criterion of Right Intention. Judges 13-16 makes it pretty clear that God as primary cause worked through Samson's less than pure intentions as a secondary cause. I am glad that he did. And I rejoice with the Iranians in Los Angeles and now New York waving Iranian, Israeli, and American flags. I wish that you could join in our rejoicing.
Ashirah l'Adonai ki ga'oh ga'ah.
@Norm, I couldn’t agree more with the statement about Just War. Historically I wonder if it was a certain kind of Protestant mindset which was keen override Just War philosophical considerations, inevitably Old Testament, which lead to the loss of the former tradition in Modernity. Cromwell justifies wars of extermination against Irish Catholics on the basis that they are “Amalek,” Hobbes responds with Leviathan—fanatical “faith” verses Realpolitiking “reason.”
Delete*emphasis on the “certain kind” There were many Protestants working on the Natural Law tradition .
"Well, uh, Samson wasn't perfect so that means we can do whatever we want regardless of how immoral it might be".
DeleteI do think it's hilarious, however, that you take all the most barbaric and violent parts of the Bible, then rather than trying to distance yourself from them, you embrace them with both hands and form your morality around them. Yep, I guess the true message of Scripture is "God loves the Jews so much that He lets them kill and rob whoever they want and you all have to be cool with it".
From the bottom of my heart, fuck you. You are supporting the modern-day Hitler, and you will go down in history alongside the likes of Rudolf Hess.
Tim,
DeletePointing to the celebrations of a group of Iranian exiles is a bit ridiculous.
After every presidential election in the US, there are those who celebrate, those who mourn, and those who shrug their shoulders.
Do you celebrate after every presidential election? Or do you pick and choose?
Tim
DeleteThat God may direct evil towards greater goods, doesn't excuse a person commiting it.
Again, I have no sympathies for the Ayatollah but that doesn't justify a war that more or less seems to be leading towards worse consequences.
Norm,
DeleteIf it leads to worse consequences than would have been the case if we had let the Ayatollah get nuclear bombs, then I shall agree with you. I do not think that is where this is leading. You do realize that the present regime has just fired numerous missiles at airports, hotels, and other civilian residences in Sunni Islamic nations, don't you. According to the latest rumors, some of those nations wanted the U.S.A. and Israel to make this attack on Iran because they were (rightly, as it happens) convinced that Iran would attack them. Thankfully, much of the effectiveness of that attack was reduced.
EXE,
DeleteThe closest thing to the modern day Hitler was the Ayatollah Khamenei. I am an evangelical Protestant happily married to a Catholic, with a reverence for much of Near Eastern and Far Eastern culture. I also gladly marched in the Parade of Nations supporting Israel at Sukkot, and attended synagogue services in Hebrew at the Western wall. If anyone is a bigot here, it is you. You have attacked several upstanding people on this blog site, including Ed (who I strongly believe is missing the larger picture with regards to Venezuela, Iran etc but who has done outstanding philosophical work and is of high character) so I am in good company.
Norm,
Delete"That God may direct evil towards greater goods doesn't excuse a person committing it." You are essentially conceding the point I have been making. Trump's motives for making action X may have been bad [and this is not crystal clear], but if X is the right action to make we should be glad that he made action X. Not just right-wing conservatives but several leaders in the Arab world think this strike was the right thing to do.
Tim, My dual citizen ex-wife moved to Israel after the Oct 7 attack, and her special skills serve the IDF very well. She does not support the attack on Iran and neither do I.
DeleteEXE has to be the biggest crybaby on this blog. Nothing of substance to offer. ❄️ 😂 🤡
DeleteTim
Delete"Trump's motives for , so even assuming Iranmaking action X may have been bad [and this is not crystal clear], but if X is the right action to make we should be glad that he made action X."
That's not how moral analysis works.
It is sinful to give alms for evil intentions, Similarly it is sinful to deliberately wage war against one's interests even if good consequences accidentally results.
Nevertheless when it comes to the consequences, it is nonsensical to say that waging war to prevent Iran from having nuclear weapons is preferable to striking a deal with them and by all indications a deal was on the table. A better deal then the Obama one.
By the way all this presupposes that Iran was indeed "close" to a nuclear weapon, by all accounts this seems to be a ruse that has been used for the last 35 years.
But even if, there wasn't a deal, as Prof pointed out last year, Iran getting nuclear weapons is an threat for Israel not the USA. So even in that regard even if they got those weapons, it's not the worst outcome for the USA, compared to waging War and losing service man.
Israel at this point is pretty capable of defending itself, so even if Iran got nuclear weapons. And say by some circumstance they happened to engage in conflict. (So far, it has been Israel who has been the first aggressor against Iran in the last two conflicts, one wonders if they would be so trigger happy if Iran did get the bomb but we can leave aside the details of how they got into a conflict)
US intervention even in this case would only be justifiable , after it was completely certain that Israel wouldn't be able to defend itself.
You can see how far down the timeline we are by the time US intervention becomes remotely justifiable.
As Prof has also explained, You can legitimately strike when you are certain that the enemy is planning to attack you but you cannot strike if you are not sure and it may or may not be the case that they are planning to attack.
In this case sources from the Pentagon have quietly let known that, Iran would have only attacked if they were attacked first.
So overall the case for waging this war is so weak that every point it's defenders have to rely on doubtful information while we are seeing the bad consequences play out right in front of us.
Also note, Tim, that it seems like the Trump Administration is trying to push for some kind of ceasefire, when there is no regime change and Iran will be more predetermined not to make a deal. If that indeed plays out it will further weaken the motives of this war on top of everything I have already said.
Norm,
DeleteThe Iranian regime under the Ayatollahs committed numerous acts of war against the U.S. between 1979 and 2026. Several on this blog consider that to be sufficient warrant for the just cause portion according to Catholic just war theory. You, Ed, and others disagree. I am agnostic about that, but if Ed is right then it means that Catholic just war theory needs to be refined.
Regarding right intention, let me make my point another way. Let us suppose that Trump's intention in making the peace deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan was primarily to gain a Nobel Peace prize and only secondarily to do with the welfare of Armenia and Azerbaijan. Then Trump's motives are relevant for an analysis of his moral character (God will judge him in good time), but we should be glad that he made such an action (I assume that you are not against that peace deal).
Norm, you're wasting your time. Tim has fully drunk the Zionist koolaid. You will never, ever be able to convince him that anything Israel does is ever wrong, because he has committed himself to the belief that they are justified automatically by virtue of who they are. You can even see it in this post, where he admits "well, even if you and Ed are right that Just War Theory disagrees with me, that just proves that it needs to change to accommodate my beliefs!"
DeleteHey Tim, why does Hamas exist? Serious question. Why do you think this organization was formed in the first place?
DeleteTim
DeleteI would agree that could constitute and satisfy one part of the the Just Cause criterion.
But as you can see in my comment, that it should be a last resort and not lead to worse consequences of also required for the Just cause criterion.
A Just war should fulfill all the Just war criterion.
Same point would apply On Right Intention.
But even if I were to grant you that.
On the last resort and worse consequences alone , the war would be unjust.
We can only pray at this point
EXE,
DeleteYou misrepresent me but I should not be surprised. According to Hamas, all those who believe that there should be any Jewish state in the Levant are Zionists. So, if you want a two-state solution you are a Zionist. I am a Zionist. I would like to see, for example, a non-Jewish state in the West Bank alongside the present Jewish state of Israel. I do not believe that Israel never does anything wrong; that is ridiculous.
EXE, I have a question for you. If, as many Iranians hope, there can be some form of democracy in Iran which respects free speech and women's rights in something approaching a Western fashion, would that not be an improvement on the regime between 1979 and 2026?
Norm,
DeleteThanks for the reply. One of the areas where I have disagreed with Ed over the phone is that I think that the U.S.A. has just cause to attack the Iranian regime. I have a more optimistic view of what the consequences will be than you do; let us revisit that in a year's time. It may well fail the right intention criterion (and thus be an unjust war), yet bring about good consequences. I am in a hopeful mood--Jews and Iranians recently joined together in Golders Green and sang Iranian protest songs and Am Israel Chai. There is a real chance that several more Muslim nations will sign the Abraham Accords after this war is over. I pray that that happens.
Tim, I noticed that you dodged my question. I will not answer any questions you put to me until you answer mine, after which I promise that I will answer your questions. My question is this - why does Hamas exist? For what reason was it created?
DeleteA minor matter, but the WPA does not expand presidential authority to conduct strikes without Congress - the text explicitly says otherwise. The Act is widely misunderstood, and executive branch friendly lawyers have inflated the president’s Article II power to do the main work of “legitimizing” war.
ReplyDeleteThe Iranian community in Los Angeles near where you live are rejoicing at the end of this dictator. Can you not do the same?
ReplyDeleteMaybe they should ask the Venezuelans who did the same thing a few months ago how that turned out.
DeleteThe Venezuelans in Florida are still happy about what Trump did, as far as I know.
DeleteWhat about the ones in Venezuela?
DeleteMeanwhile, the streets of Tehran are filled with people chanting "Death to America". Yeah, somehow I don't think you're the Good Guys. Even if you were, Iran doesn't need their dictator replaced with an Israeli puppet. That's just swapping one form of unfreedom with another.
DeleteLmao, they’re in the streets cheering that the Ayatollah is gone. Keep up.
DeleteOne, those positions aren't mutually exclusive. Two, it would be extremely foolish to assume anything coming out of any country at war is true. Information warfare is a core part of modern war. But none of that matters to you anyway. America must always be the Good Guy and their actions must always be supported by the Real Populace crushed under the weight of Oppressive Governments. It's the same old fiction you tell yourselves to claim that your Imperialism isn't really Imperialism. You ever think that Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran might actually have any popular support?
DeleteWell, we know for sure that celebrants rejoicing in Iran are already getting shot at by the police. Unless that's more "Zionist propaganda".
DeleteI have family in some of the gulf countries that have been attacked. Please pray for them.
ReplyDeleteAlso with regards to casualties it seems that italian soldiers were killed during strikes by Iran. I pray that's not true.
Look at this post from Michael Knowles retweeted by Chad Pecknold Prof
ReplyDelete"Anyone outside of government with a strong opinion on the Iran strikes right now likely does not have a serious opinion.
To ascertain the justice and prudence of the strikes, one requires information that most of us simply don't have:
1.) How imminent really was the threat of Iran's nuclear program?
2.) What is the likelihood that we can efficiently and effectively implement a new, friendly regime?
The skeptics who make comparisons to Iraq have good reason: this is a preemptive attack over weapons of mass destruction and the liberation of an oppressed people in a nation bordering Iraq which is so similar that the countries share 75% of the letters in their names.
The hawks who dismiss fears of another quagmire observe that President Trump has the best foreign policy record of any president in decades, perhaps in our lifetimes, and therefore has earned credibility and trust on these issues.
If this intervention fails like Iraq, Trump's legacy could be destroyed like Bush's. If it succeeds, Trump can claim the greatest geopolitical victory since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
No one can know with certainty what the outcome will be. But likewise, no one can"
It's almost lunacy
"President Trump has the best foreign policy record of any president in decades"
DeleteI see we have already conveniently forgotten who gave Afghanistan back to the Taliban.
Blame Trump however you want: Biden had the con when it went down.
DeleteTrump Cultists will do, say, think, and forget literally anything if it supports Dear Leader.
Delete>>> 1.) How imminent really was the threat of Iran's nuclear program?
DeleteWe know how imminent the threat was.
Netanyahu has been warning us for 30 yrs it was just months away. So very clearly it was imminent now.
Witkoff said a week ago that Iran was a week away. So clearly we struck just in time!
If we had waited another day, the world would have ended.
I voted for Trump three times (and not because I like him). By now, I assume anything he or the people in his administration say that sounds like a lie, is a lie.
DeleteDario
DeleteTrump was obviously better then Kamala.
I think Prof's plan of voting for Trump in a swing state was the best.
But it is admirable that you have the gumption to criticize your own side. We need more conservatives who voted for Trump but also admit the insanity of what is happening. I praise you for that.
Prof put it well, it doesn't make sense to be happy about getting hit by one nuclear bomb rather then two.
Given that war is analogous to the imposition of a judicial penalty and that the burden of proof for the justice of the war is on the aggressor, it seems reasonable that there is a grave obligation for the authority to make manifest their reasons for imposing the penalty.
DeleteYes James
DeleteIn Just war theory, that would be one of the conditions for meeting the just cause criteria, the cause has to be known to be Juar.
Iran has sponsored numerous assaults on US personnel, interests, and allies, and has sponsored attempted assasinations of public officials within our own country which manifestly is of its nature a cause of war. That the US has not acted until now may be very prudent. Even that we have acted now may be imprudent. But that there is no cause for war is not so clear. As for declaration, the US has never understood the declaration of war as a requirement prior to any significant bellicose act. It simply hasn't, all the way back to the regime change with the Pasha. This current act is hard to assess. Venezuela seems easier to justify: a despot kept in power by Cuban mercenaries and narco-terrorists murdering, torturing, and imprisoning Venezuelan citizens while attempting to destabilize the US and violate our laws does not seem like "a natural extension of the family," but perhaps I had a happier family life as a child. The sanctioning of the boats was suppression of brigandage which navies have undertaken time out of mind. And "no emergency" may not be the attitude of the hundreds of thousands of parents who have lost teens to fentanyl traffickers supplied by the brigands some of whom were blown up on the water. Even on tariffs, the Court acknowledged he had the authority to act, simply not under the statute used. And in some cases (China) it is an essential element of foreign policy... Trump may be a voluntarist, but the actions are not indefensible. This current strike is in part a recognition that the regime will not alter its path, and that that path is one of war on the US, US allies, and US interests. It has been so since the beginning of the regime. But I confess I do not know what to think about the prudence of the war. It is hazardous. As for being just: they have merited punishment for some while. And Augustine and Aquinas taught that punishment of wrongdoing (contra the UN) is one of the essential purposes of war...
ReplyDeleteAmerica, Fuck Yeah! Comin' in to save the Motherfuckin' Day, Yeah! *Civilians scream as bomb explode in the background*
DeleteYou’re a manifestly unserious person. Grow up, then use your brain.
DeleteA condition for a just war is that lesser means must be proven to be ineffective at deterring the threats. Since we have thwarted most threats from Iran, it seems that lesser means are effective and war unnecessary. The few attacks that have been successful have not been proportionate to assassinating non-combatant leaders and destabilizing a whole country by targeting its security apparatus.
DeleteNor is being "on the path" to war with the US sufficient for just war. Iran must be imminently attacking (ie in the act of deploying weapons to a attack).
The fact is that for 99% percent of Americans, a just war is a war that kills bad guys. That's it. How we fight it, why we fight it—none of that matters as long as we're fighting bad guys. It's a five-year-old's understanding of war, and has nothing to do with the moral seriousness that Christianity teaches about the taking of life, but it's the American way. Don't be surprised if questioning it makes you a lot of enemies. This was never a Christian nation.
ReplyDeleteI would add that on the New Right especially there is also an inveterate tendency towards crude Consequentialism in the name of toughness and Realpolitik e.g. "they are targeting civilians in retribution ergo we ought to" (I remain uncertain how it stop before "They are sacrificing infants to Satan for success before each battle ergo we ought to")
DeleteYour whining today is unusually petulant. You’re a fundamentally unserious person.
DeleteAmen
Delete"The fact is that for 99% percent of Americans, a just war is a war that kills bad guys."
DeleteExcept most Americans opposed attacking Iran, even though they agree that the regime is bad.
Thurible, it's a shame that the MAGA morons here don't have the capacity to understand how right you are. American Exceptionalism is a blight upon both America and the world, facilitating a monstrous arrogance that coarsens the heart just as much as it blinds the reason. So many Americans seem to think that they both can and may act with total impunity on the world stage, and I've seen that extend even into personal relations (such as Americans struggling to even understand how their country's superiority in every field could be denied - everyone wants to come here, right?!). The British used to be like this at their height, and when they eventually collided headfirst with the reality that they were no longer a world-class Empire, it shattered them. The same thing will happen to America - when you eventually run into something that provides irrefutable proof that you can in fact lose "fairly", that you are no longer supreme, the result will be a national-scale identity crisis and mental breakdown. Here's hoping that the arrogance gets replaced by humility, rather than an even worse variety of jingoistic fascism.
Delete"American Exceptionalism is a blight upon both America and the world, facilitating a monstrous arrogance that coarsens the heart just as much as it blinds the reason."
DeleteJust above, the same guy:
"From the bottom of my heart, fuck you. You are supporting the modern-day Hitler, and you will go down in history alongside the likes of Rudolf Hess."
Trump a "modern-day" Hitler and Tim Finlay a "Rudolf Hess", all eminently rational positions. With an F*** You on top; issuing from a heart as pure as snow and brimming with charity.
Oh, I'm soooo sorry that I hurt your feelings, Rod. As we all know, only bad people ever say curse words. A decent, upstanding human being would never resort to something so immoral as foul language. They would be polite and formal as they discussed the finer details of genocide and imperialism. I mean, sure, schoolgirls might be getting blown into offal, but there's no cause for LANGUAGE!
DeleteAs it happens, I was referring to Netenyahu, actually, though Trump isn't too far behind.
At some point there needs to be a reckoning amongst Anglo-Catholics over Dispensationalism. It's by far one of the most materially influential heresies today. Likewise America likes to chest-beat about "the separation of Church and State" while letting a foreign country take the role of an established church.
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Delete^^This is literally there only defense even if the critic in question is of Jewish ethnicity or even a religious Jew themselves.
DeleteA war against Iran could easily meet the criteria for a just war if conducted by a serious administration. Their list of crimes is long and ongoing. Whether a well planned and executed attack would have a good chance to succeed in ending the regime is a question we can't really answer without classified information.
ReplyDeleteHowever, we clearly do not have a serious administration and the reasonable assumption is that there is not much of a long term plan, nor is there a good chance Iran's current regime is replaced by a better one. Let's hope that turns out to be wrong.
Sorry Professor, but this post is manifestly ridiculous. As I said to a priest who inquired of me:
ReplyDeleteThe four primary criteria of just war theory are:
1) Competent authority: it will doubtless be argued that the war is illegal under international law, but it is dubious that it has been established that those aspects of international law override the rights of nations to intervene in cases that may plausibly be argued to be self-defense, or to defend others. NATO’s intervention in Kosovo in 1999 is a prime example of an amply-justified but nevertheless technically illegal war.
2) Just cause: as a response to nearly half a century of Iranian warmaking against the United States, compounded by the Iranian pursuit of nuclear weapons, to say nothing of the tens of thousands of Iranian civilians killed last month - this should be the least controversial point.
3) Right intention: the most interesting criterion. Insofar as our intention conforms to the causes enumerated above, I’d say we’ve got it.
4) Last resort: further diplomacy with the mullahs would almost certainly have been fruitless.
Thanks for this post, Dr. Feser. I'm sure Saint Thomas Aquinas would agree. How sad for the West that this clown is in the White House
ReplyDeleteAquinas believed the Crusades were just. He would absolutely condone this.
DeleteIs this a crusade?
DeleteMore like a barbarian invasion
DeleteAll comments duly considered, I don't think the action was wise. Regardless of outcome, it will not be remembered as our finest hour. And, regardless of intention, I compare it with the Russian assault on Ukraine.
ReplyDeleteIt's crazy that so little is mentioned about the parallel: same claims; same responses. The only essential difference seems to be that the U.S. seems better (for now) at getting the job done more quickly.
DeleteThe war might be imprudent and even unjust, but to compare it to Russia's invasion is like comparing petty theft to premeditated murder.
DeleteComparing the genocidal invasion of Ukraine, a democracy, with American strikes against Iran, an authoritarian dictatorship which has murdered more than thirty thousand of its own citizens in the last month, is fatuous
DeleteLoaded language isn't logic.
DeleteWhen I talked "about the parallel," I never said Russia was right and Trump was wrong - my opinions about the morality were never mentioned, nor are that at all relevant to my point.
The claims made by Putin and Trump are the same:
~ Putin claims there is Neo-Nazis in Ukraine, especially at the start of the war and that the people of the eastern regions want to be Russian; Trump claims Iran has radial Islamic groups and that the people wish to be freed (to live more American life styles).
There were protests and uprisings 'by the people' in both areas preceding conflict.
~ Putin also claims the invasion is a matter of national security, since there are NATO military assets in Ukraine (again, something no one reasonably denies - Ukraine's been preparing and trying to become a NATO nation).
Putin said the 'special military operation' was being conducted to bring stability to the region. Also, Putin continually claims Ukraine is seeking nuclear weapons.
Trump claims Iran is seeking nuclear weapons. Trump said he called the strikes to save American lives and promote stability in the region. (Interestingly, he did NOT sight the alleged murders and protests as the justifying cause.)
To ignore that these statements of Putin and Trump are logically equivalent - at least to the level of a parallel - is just a little dense.
To pretend we could have enough information assign complete hero-ship or villainy (as your loaded terms suggest) is slightly naive.
The only information possible about either conflict must come from or pass through parties heavily infested in the conflict.
Thank you for writing this. This war is absolutely indefensible. Iran is no threat to us and has agreed even to our most unreasonable demands.
ReplyDeleteRank, utter nonsense. Iran is an evil regime, and every Catholic just war ethicist permits war on that ground alone.
DeleteThis is excellent. And a timely refutation of Michael Knowles’ neocon Catholic distortion of Just War Theory, on X. I would add Trump didn’t say “imminent threat,” but “eminent threat.” A slip, but a Freudian one. This war is going to be horrific beyond belief. And it’s just starting. I’m doing a daily SitRep on my Substack: https://johnseiler.substack.com/
ReplyDeleteYou predict-- no, outright prophesy a "horrific war beyond belief." I predict you won't issue a single corrective if you're wrong. People who just know these things, whether they know of the existence of WMDs that justifies some war, or that they know everything is false flags or caused by Israel in order to argue against any intervention at all, often lack any sense of humility when their predictions fail, and would rather be false prophets who change or stretch the conditions of fulfillment, than simply be wrong.
DeleteThis is abysmal and a clear sign that Dr. Feser is outside his wheelhouse
DeleteThe fact that this happened so close to Purim makes me suspect that Israel is the real brains behind this debacle. Oh well, blowing up schoolchildren is something they have a lot of experience with.
ReplyDeleteAny reliable source that it was an Israeli rocket that struck the school?
DeleteNetanyahu has literally been calling for this for decades as per the classic “weeks from nuclear weapons since 1996.” So it is pretty certain that Israel has been a prime mover in this.
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DeleteDarnell, who the fuck else would be firing rockets at an Iranian civilian building? America? I admit, in the fog of war, we cannot have 100% certain proof, but by default the suspicion should lie on Israel and the United States. It's an objective fact that they're bombing Iran. The only other option for this is that Iran bombed its own people for clout, which is so much less likely that it doesn't pass the laugh test. Would it have been reasonable to suggest in 1939 that the Poles were bombing their own troops to make Germany look bad? It should not be controversial to assume that the people bombing Iran are the ones responsible for a bombing that happened in Iran, and only someone desperate to believe in Israel/America's moral purity would have motivation to doubt that.
DeleteThere are many MAGA supporters that view this attack on Iran as a betrayal and so they may sit out the midterms allowing Democrat majorities in the House and Senate. But it seems that taking action against Iran is not a Trump-only idea. Ron DeSantis, if he had been elected, may have done the same thing.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.miamitimesonline.com/news/world_national/ron-desantis-doubts-deal-possible-with-tottering-iran-regime-thinks-donald-trump-will-follow-through/article_3b0e475d-6b3b-4bea-9516-89810bc4fd05.html
Given what we know now, who Kamala Harris have been a better choice than Trump or De Santis?
I don't know if Just War theorizing here is a game of Monday Night quarterbacking, or simply a kind of hypocrisy; or perhaps it's penance for supporting the folly of the neocon Bush era. But that such Just War theory being used recently would have us discern none of the tangible and quantifiable acts ascribable to narco or Islamo-terrorist regimes and the violations against basic human dignity in the form of human lives lost and destroyed, but only by weighing the calculations of certain finer points of morality at an ideal and abstract level of discernment that few humans possess until otherwise equipped with the advantages of hindsight, strikes me as an exercise lacking any meaningful seriousness.
ReplyDeleteDr. Feser, if Iran arms and directs the Houthis to attack American ship with Americans on them (as well as the ships of European allies) in the Red Sea, should America attack the Houthis or Iran, or both?
ReplyDeleteSome would argue that Iran has, though it's proxies, been attacking American civilian, and allied civilians continuously for the last 50 years.
America would most certainly have a right to respond with force against attacks on shipping by Houthi forces as long as proportionate, had a reasonable chance of resolving the problem, and wouldn’t lead to a worse situation. Given Western governments bad track record with funding “insurgents” (who often end up being overtly anti-American) then using their bad behaviour as justification for war with Iran would be unfortunate.
DeleteThe proxy question is interesting. Might not Iran or any Middle Eastern power claim that the US is thus gravely responsible for the purported crimes of Israel as it’s a “proxy of the US?” Or why not get really controversial and argue that it is America which is a proxy of Israel rather than the converse.
Thanks for the reply.
DeleteThe Houthis wouldn't only example. Hamas killed 1000s of Israelis (a US ally), Hezbollah killed some too. I know those are all messy but, hypothetically, if we said those attacks had no justification. What is the proportionate response against Iran to 1000s dead by, say, Hamas?
Regarding Israel as America's proxy (or vice versa), I think it would matter if the action of one was at the behest of the other, not merely supplying weapons. Has America ever, without any provocation, attacked anyone at the behest of Israel? Has the reverse happened, where Israel attacks someone, without any provocation, at the behest of America?
Of course, every side and every proxy of every side will claim provocation I suppose.
I feel like Just War doctrine doesn't squarely provide clear answers in such murkiness.
I also had the question about Just War: if the only response to an attack that has reasonable likelihood of success is disproportionate, must a state simply be attacked without responding?
According to Marco Rubio, the present war on Iran by America was due to the threat of Iran attacking U.S. bases after a planned Israeli preemptive strike on Iran.
DeleteAs to proportionate response, by reductio ab absurdum, if the only way for a war to succeed were to murder every other person on Earth, it would not be just. In reality, the analysis depends on specifics. As with the atomic bombings, just so stories don't cut it.
Johann,
DeleteDid attacking Iran actually stop Iran from attacking US bases?
It seems like the answer is no, and perhaps gave them justification to do so.
Anonymous,
DeleteI agree, obviously the U.S. attack did not prevent attacks on U.S. assets. "If Israel attacks Iran, Iran will attack us," does not seem sufficient to justify a preemptive strike, especially if Israel's cause is a preventive strike. I was answering whether America ever, without any provocation, attacked anyone at the behest of Israel, which is now definitely true, and American provocation was the actual cause of Iranian strikes on U.S.
Apparently the Zionists are out in force today in the comment section.
ReplyDeleteIf this attack proves one thing, it is that the US is Israel's bitch.
In the midst of all the claims of modern Iranian transgressions, it has been forgotten that the US overthrew a democratically elected Iranian government and installed a brutal dictator which it supported for 25 yrs.
But hey, if the US did it, it must have been Just, ispo facto.
So many crazy Zionist shills reading this blog. Wild times.
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DeleteExactly. The US and Britain overthrew a democratically-elected government and replaced it with an autocratic puppet state for the high crime of...wanting to control their own country's oil supply instead of having it be owned by Western multinationals. If they hadn't done that, Khomeini would never have been anything more than a teacher at an Islamic seminary.
DeleteIn regard to just cause, I'm wondering if Nazi Germany's relations with US then is not analogous to our relationship with the Iranian regime now. They were bullying and attacking our allies for years, as Iran has been doing with Israel and the Sunni Gulf states. The Third Reich's submarine warfare on our shipping to Great Britain is similar to how Iran has used proxies to destabilize the Middle East and has armed, trained, and sanctioned them to kill our troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Beirut. The Houthis, for example, have shot at our ships. After Pearl Harbor, Hitler declared war on us; a de facto state of war, I feel, has plausibly existed between us and Iran since 1979, regardless if we recognize it or not. Even if we concede they don't have nuclear ambitions or are not anywhere near to the capability of striking us with a nuclear tipped ICBM, Nazi Germany also had no feasible means to strike the homeland either and weren't an imminent threat to us during the entirety of the war while they ran roughshod over Europe and were winning against our allies, France and Britain, in 1939-41. So how do the just war criteria make our effort in that war just, where we executed a "Germany-first" strategy, where we fought in North Africa, Italy, then France when it was Japan who directly attacked us and threatened, not only our allies, but our holdings in the Pacific and was plausibly the far more imminent threat after Dec. 7, 1941? I know we fought simultaneously on both fronts, but it seems to me like it would be difficult to justify the campaigns in European/Mediterranean theater of the WW2 according to what Professor Feser argues here.
ReplyDeleteAnd as a more general point: I get that reasonable people disagree on the extent of Iran's uranium enrichment and whether it portends a sooner than rather break out of nuclear military power, which has implications whether we ought be doing what is happening now. But can we agree this has nothing to do with "the Jews" or Israel controlling our foreign policy? I'm finding it incredibly ironic that there is a certain kind of isolationist right-winger -- a couple posts I've seen here under this one suggest they are present -- who treats Iran, the eschatologically-oriented Shia regime, as a totally rational actor who is acting in good faith in all its claims and actions, and instead views the US, creature and puppet of ideological Zionism, as always manipulative, dishonest, solely acting in bad faith, and a priori has no genuine interest in Iran, let alone the entire Middle East. This right-winger seemingly is committed to the idea that the threat of the Iranian nuclear program is not only farcical but far less an existential and imminent threat than seemingly of an entirely different kind of WMD -- one of nefarious Jewish influence. See, Netanyahu, Mark Levin, and the neocons apparently have been exaggerating, lying, and trying to manipulate us to go to war with Iran for years for the sake of their prior ideological commitments and personal vendettas, while Pat Buchanan, paleocons, and very sundry antisemites have not been exaggerating, lying, and trying to manipulate us to go to war against the Jews for years for the sake of their prior ideological commitments and personal vendettas. Wherever you stand on the question of Iranian uranium enrichment and whether we ought to be intervening in Iran, can we acknowledge this? That, clearly one group is at least attempting to reason from a falsifiable plane of shared empirical geopolitical reality while the other is not and is instead operating from a stance of fratricidal gnostic epistemic smugness and employs a "hermeneutics of suspicion," the prognostications of which are degrees of magnitudes less justifiable than the hawkish interpretation of Iranian uranium enrichment as provocative and worthy of intervention?
As you note, Germany declared war on the U.S. first. Their cause was that the United States had violated neutrality, by attacking U-Boats while escorting Allied convoys from Canada to Iceland.
DeleteBut still, after Germany's declaration of war, only then did real attacks begin on the U.S., primarily U-Boats along the east coast and north Atlantic. The cause of America entering World War II is obvious as retaliation against actual threat of attack and actual attack.
As for Iranian proxies, let alone imminent attack on U.S. by them, as Professor Feser explains, it was manifestly not even the cause. So, you are left with the preventive war or regime change war which you do not provide the argument of just cause for.
The cause of American involvement is obviously due in part to Israeli interests. Certainly, some Zionists are very fine people. That there are mad mullahs is plain, but that there are no rabid Zionists is asinine. And it's simply bizarre to claim that Pat Buchanan desires the U.S. go to war with Israel.
Yeah, I'm not buying that. Sure, U-Boat attacks picked up after we entered the war, but Hitler decided to declare war officially after Pearl Harbor. He had 3 months after the Greer Incident, where the U-boat fired torpedoes first, to officially recognize the escalating state of state of de facto war between US merchant fleets and warships and his Kriegsmarine, but he didn't. Did then the increase in u-boat attacks near our Eastern seaboard warrant fighting Nazi forces in North Africa, Italy, and then France to Germany? Apparently, so, but there was no real imminent threat that Germany could ever endanger the homeland similarly to how Iran, proxies or not, doesn't endanger the homeland now, charitably speaking, without a nuclear-tipped ballistic missile that may or may not be imminent. I contested the a priori ruling out of preventative war with a counter example that I don't think you have shown is relevantly disanalogous here. I never argued against the other just war criteria.
DeleteBut here's something Feser, as much I respect him, cavalierly dismisses about the "laundry list" of offenses that Trump did mention in his announcement of "major combat operations" against Iran Saturday morning that might explain why we didn't bomb Iran like we're doing now instead of a small retaliatory strike like with Soleimani. On top of these well know grievances in which the US has, for the most part, not retaliated against and even instead attempted diplomacy, Iran sanctioned Hamas' Operation Al Aqsa Flood on Oct. 7, which killed 40+ American citizens and took others captive. In November 2024, 3 men linked with the Mullahs were detained and charged with a plot to assassinate Trump prior to the election. Our intelligence agencies also suspect and warn there are Iranian sleep cells within out country now that could be activated any day now. If anything, Iran's aggression has gotten worse and is nigh becoming intolerable.
Say there's a mad man, who for 50 years has been swearing he wants to kill you. You know he's serious about doing so because he's taken every opportunity in these years to try to hurt you and has repeatedly attacked and intimidated your friends and his neighbors, threatening the peace and order of his neighborhood and the larger international community. If anything, his belligerence against you and others is getting more incorrigible and intense. It also seems plausible he's been at least collecting the parts and ammunition needed to assemble a gun and suspiciously gets evasive and uncooperative when we and third-party neutrals get concerned about what he's doing, ask him to pledge to refrain from assembling a gun and if he can be periodically checked on to see if he's keeping his word. In such a scenario, according to Feser's presentation of just war criteria in regards to preventive war, apparently we'd only be justified in forcibly stopping him, let alone taking him out, until he had assembled the gun and was directly aiming it at us, and frankly, I find that absurd.
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DeleteNever mind, Feser and other critics like yourself, never consider that once Iran enriches weapons-grade uranium, the breakout to legitimate rogue nuclear state and imminent threat is very much shorter than they realize even if they don't seemingly have all the requisite parts handy for an operational nuclear weapon. Iran doesn't have to develop the ICBM technology to strike us because they could buy it from those they're already in league with like China, Russia, and North Korea. Or they could put small warheads on drones that can be launched near the Mexican border by its affiliated agents allies in Latin America. Or as the leading state sponsor of terrorism in the world, they can give enough for dirty bombs to their terrorist proxies and militias whose most notorious tactic is the suicide bomb. This also assumes, almost comically, that the Iranian regime is more or less acting in better faith than Trump's administration in spite of the former's 50-year track record of malevolent conduct consistent with a rogue ideological and eschatologically-oriented state.
So American involvement is far from manifestly being for the sake of Israeli interests, as much as you and others want to rationalize that it is. Pat Buchanan and various ideological isolationists and assorted antisemites have been years insisting the real existential threat is Jewish influence, and I don't find that claim epistemically in the same league of plausibility as opposed to the hawks who are at least trying to appeal to falsifiable, empirical facts on the ground with evident geopolitical implications that Buchanan and company seem to find, very conveniently, incredulous and only could every be advanced by those acting in bad faith or on the Zionist take.
Certainly not. For one thing the influence of pro-Israel factions in US foreign policy has been well documented across the Right and the Left often by Jewish individuals themselves e.g. John Mearsheimer, Max Blumenthal, Glenn Greenwald, and of course Norman Finkelstein. There is now an ever-increasing gulf between the views of the electorate, Democrat even more so than Republican, and political representatives over the vast uncritical support the US government shows Israel. The slur of "antisemitism" for criticising Israel policy at home and abroad becomes nonsense after decades of equal applicability to Jewish or even Israeli officials who don't think X policy is a good idea.
DeleteAs to whether one can treat it as a question of geo-political soundness, to do so would be to ignore motivating factors on behalf of US officials such as Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee which is explicitly theological and of a theology incompatible with Catholicism and arguably with the supposed non-denominational if not secular identity. Papal authority has long recognised Israel's right to exist within internally recognised borders and to defend itself with legitimate means and force should it be attack. These however are purely secular concerns that would apply to any other state.
As for WMDs in the Middle East the world has waited for decades for a certain country to acknowledge and become signatory to various treaties binding the possessors of such.
What one THINKS someone else MIGHT do is different from what one KNOWS someone is PLANNING, or threatening, let alone capable, to do. If we have good knowledge our madman neighbor has the capability, intention and power to shoot us, of course we do not need to wait until the gun is leveled at us to act, and perhaps even with a deadly response if the danger is imminent, incapable of being stopped any other way so on. But certain knowledge is world's away from rhetoric, guesses, etc.
DeleteAmbassador to Israel Mike Huckabee claims Israel has sovereign right to much of the region. The actions of Israel lend support to the Greater Israel decision. And on the other hand, the late Ayatollah claimed his nation was not seeking nuclear arms, their recent (direct) actions supported that Iranian missiles, drones, only flew in response to attacks (provoked or otherwise, to be fair.)
Of course, what someone SAYS is not always what they BELIEVE, INTEND, etc. But it is better than guessing, hand waving, ideologically driven narrative about their intentions, second only to what they actually DO.
It seems that the arguments in the post are not sufficient for the thesis in the title ("The U.S. war on Iran is manifestly unjust"). They might support something like "It is manifest that we should presume that the war is unjust", but that is a different, much weaker, claim.
ReplyDeleteFor example, let's take "Again, we were told last year that that job had already been done, and that no one who said otherwise should be listened to. That was either a grave intelligence error or (more likely) standard Trump-style humbug. Why should we trust the administration now if we could not trust them then?". That obviously does not prove that Iran's nuclear capabilities are non-existent at the moment. At most, it proves that we should assume that they are non-existent.
And even that seems to be too strong. For there is a very clear pathway for Iran's nuclear capabilities (and the threat to America) to increase overnight: what if, in exchange for the drones, Putin chose to give a whole ICBM (with nuclear warhead and everything needed for launch) to Iran?
Now, that exact scenario is unlikely (if only because an ICBM is not so easy to transport whole), but a weaker kind of such scenario (let's say, a gift or sale of some important rocket parts) seems to be pretty plausible. I don't think we can rule it out at the moment.
A second possible just cause is "The president also claims to be motivated by a desire to free the Iranian people from a tyrannical government.", with the answer "But it is not by itself enough for a just cause for war. There needs to be some specific, well thought out plan for achieving this aim. And it has to be a plan that we can reasonably believe both (a) won’t make things even worse for the Iranian people, and (b) won’t draw the U.S. into a quagmire that is against its own interests.". Again, we are not in position to know that such a plan does not exist.
Actually, a possible plan (perhaps the one chosen) would seem to be:
1. Defeat the forces that would defend the regime.
2. Wait for the protesters to overthrow the regime.
As far, as I can tell, it might work. And even if it doesn't work, it might still lead to a civil war, which might be worse for inhabitants of Iran, but would arguably be an improvement for many others (civil war would mean that the potential sponsors of terrorism etc. have more pressing concerns).
Also, there are other possible causes, like punishing the Iranian leadership for something (terrorism, support for Russian invasion of Ukraine, killing of their own civilians etc.).
So, maybe the war is unjust, but that is far from manifest.
As for "Furthermore, a war with Iran could cause oil prices to spike – thus damaging the U.S. economy" - that is rather uncertain (maybe in the longer run it will cause the oil prices to fall, given that oil exports might become more reliable), and of relatively little importance.
More than four decades of terror directly and indirectly; thousands dead including Americans; Administration after administration seeking appeasement yet nothing but a festering evil reigning evil. It reminds me of how the world viewed the former Soviet Union, just quietly go along to get along; until a Pope, a President, and a Prime Minister addressed the scourge. Before you compare military and non-violent means the regime of Communist Russia and Iran are both dark and evil. It is obvious the author is biased against Trump, however he has the clarity to rid the world of evil; an Isolationist mentality in a global world, a view of appeasement, will only prolong the inevitable—the Death to America. Lastly, the president does have the authority to strike and this is not a war, it is the elimination of an American threat that has refused to stop pursuing nuclear enrichment. Think about it—nuclear power in an oil rich country?
ReplyDeleteAmerica and Israel together have been exporting terrorism to the Middle East for 80 years. But I guess crimes only count when they're done to you.
DeleteI agree with you, Ed. That's why I ( among other reasons) I voted for K.Harris and didn't take your advice to vote for Trump in 2024.
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@Pontifex
I am following with deep concern what is happening in the Middle East and in Iran during this tumultuous time. Stability and peace are not achieved through mutual threats, nor through the use of weapons, which sow destruction, suffering, and death, but only through reasonable, sincere, and responsible dialogue.
Appreciate the arguments and your larger work overall. I wouldn’t say it is manifestly unjust. For one, this is the criteria for refusal to participate in an unjust war, and I would not say that the actions were manifestly unjust to the soldiers who perpetrated them. They could be questionably unjust, and maybe this is just a petty point about semantics, but I think manifest is too strong and its implications too far reaching.
ReplyDeleteJust cause. I think the question over causus belli is more complex. First, one could argue we’ve been at war with Iran for a year (maybe longer) since we started bombing their proxies in Yemen. I argued in First Things that proxies are extensions of the greater power. We likely have had tens if not hundreds of grave harms perpetrated against the U.S. by Iranian proxies. At some point it’s not just the proxy we are allowed to punish but the power behind the proxy. This does not guarantee just cause in this specific case, but certainly makes the question more complicated which in turn necessitates careful arguments in response.
Legitimate authority (or lawful). I might pushback on this point as well, though I have to admit I haven’t fully considered your argument until this blog post. I am more inclined to think legitimate authority applies to the overall political community in question and less whether that community internally followed its processes or laws. It is manifestly not legitimate if the New York Guard independently launches a raid against Iran but not manifestly illegitimate if the President gives an order to strike somewhere, since he normally gives these orders and you never get to ping back, “hey, Congress signed off on this right?” Congress merely approves, they play no other part in the process of war making. All of this war making is accomplished by the executive branch: the administration, DoD, IC, etc. and run by the President. It has effectively fallen to the President to make these decisions in practice (think about briefing 500+ people with intel etc, and then taking it to a vote all in a timely and secretive manner nowadays), so I don’t think it’s a clear cut case that simply because the President did not get the approvals needed it automatically means the tenet of legitimate authority is not satisfied (I.e., the U.S. as a sovereign nation somehow did not attack Iran but a subset of that nation-state, an imperfect community perpetrated the attack). The problem seems endemic to constitutional republics with strong executives, more a question of what type of regime are we presently and less can a democratic republic ever go to war on the word of the one branch whose job it is is to run its wars. However, maybe you get less unjust wars if Congress has to approve them.
Something about a just cause: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/25/opinion/iran-protests-doctors-images.html?unlocked_article_code=1.QFA.KTSh.E-07Od-hHjEX&smid=url-share
ReplyDeleteIran can harm American citizens in many ways/ Not only are there Americans living and travelling all over the world; but there are also American military bases in Iraq and Syria. They were all attacked last year by Iranian proxies. They are probably being attacked at this very moment.
DeleteAs for nuclear weapons, Iran has been trying to develop them for decades, and every US president has tried to prevent this.
We might think Iran cannot use a nuclear weapon against the US, but even though they don't have missiles that can reach America, it is at least possible that they could have a nuclear weapon that fits into the trunk of a car.
Yes, I Jonathan Lewis. Iran can certainly do that and the FBI Director made that easier by firing many members of the FBIs Iran Counterintelligence unit. https://www.ms.now/news/kash-patels-latest-firings-ousted-agents-with-expertise-in-iranintelligence unit.
Deletehttps://mthollywood1.blogspot.com/2026/03/edward-feser-on-iran-bombing.html
ReplyDeleteIt seems that Americans have the shortest collective memory of any people on the planet. The Iraq War occurred just over two decades ago. The same justifications for the current Iran War were made in the Iraq War.
ReplyDeleteIn both cases, the war party said that the leader of each country represented an imminent threat to the United States and that preemptive war was necessary. In both cases, there is no evidence that either country was planning to attack the United States at all, let alone imminently.
In both cases, the war party said that the US would be welcomed as liberators and that the war would be short. The Iraq War lasted eight years, cost the US over $2 trillion and killed over 4,000 US troops. Iraq today is hardly a trusted US ally. It's a barely functional state.
Iran has a population twice the size of Iraq. Yet, Trump and his mindless supporters think that the Iranian people will miraculously rise up and replace the hated dictator with a good government so the US can then go home with minimal cost and casualties. The fact that so many Trump followers mindlessly believe this nonsense just like they believed Bush on Iraq speaks volumes about the American mindset.
Trump is the intellectual heir of PT Barnum. Barnum had it right when he said there's a sucker born every minute.
Additionally, whereas Iraq is mostly floodplains, Iran is mostly mountains and mountain valleys. Any attempt at occupation would be like Afghanistan on steroids.
DeleteI can't sign in to comment. But I have a question, and I am not being glib or sarcastic.
ReplyDeleteWho is this unjust "for"? Let me make this question as precise as I can make it: we start with the premise that the attack on Iran is manifestly unjust, it's manifestly "wrong".
Who has to confess it in confession otherwise they go to hell? I don't want a big dodge like "well we don't know who knows it's grave and what they intended..."
For the sake of this hypothetical, every human on the planet, top to bottom, understands this is manifestly unjust, and intended with full consent whatever it intended.
Who in the united states needs to go to confession right now? Trump? Congress? Everyone who voted for Trump/Politician that did this? Everyone who supported them on facebook? Everyone who tweeted? Everyone who thinks this is actually a good thing? The Iranians who are happy that Trump is killing their leadership?
I know this is going to be responded to like it's rhetorical, but I am asking an earnest question to understand who precisely is being convicted with these "just war" posts.
Trump, the military and political leaders who advised him it was just and all who formally support it.
DeleteCommendable. Ed Feser appears to be what most conservatives style themselves: a man of principle. I disagree profoundly on many topics but it is good to see him speak with moral clarity, contrary to the stunning hypocrisy of his voting community ( conservatives). There is manifest evil going on in this administration in your names and yet - like the admin- you invent, every next minute, a new rationalization for it.
ReplyDeleteYes, Trump is a crazy clown, and some of us who voted for him knew that at the time. Then why vote for him? Because it was the crazy clown against an old crook, then against a senile old fogey, and then against a cackling airhead. So, where does it go from there?
ReplyDeleteTrump may well be in the wrong, as you said. But even so, Iran is not in the right. If Iran were an adult nation, then it would have the same right as the USA or any other sovereign nation to develop and maintain nuclear weapons. But of course, it is not. No, but sad to say, the Islamic Republic of Iran is not an adult nation, and it is questionable whether it has any serious legitimacy as a sovereign nation. For decades, Iran has been working hard to prove itself as the amoral scourge of the world. You see, some of us remember the late '70s and early '80s. When they seized the American embassy, their leader defended the action by saying they were not part of the West, and so the standard system of internation law did not apply to them. But when the war with Iraq came, and one of their bigwigs was captured, they appealed to the UN to try to get him back. Modern nations are commonly morally blameworthy for pushing their self-interest too hard, but most have at least the decency to fake and pretend to be respectable. Iran looks like it does not have even that much. Hey, Lord love them and all that, but what can one say when dealing with such people?
Inform me what happened to Iran before the 70s and 80s, maybe, you know, the 50s. Amazing how history starts in the 70s for you.
DeleteOh, really? Has it occurred to you that I am old enough to remember the '70s and '80s only because my personal goes back many years before that? But my concern with the history of Persia and its function in the world reaches back to Biblical times. As for the 1950s, yes, I know about that well enough. That is no excuse for them to try to have it both ways decades later. In any event, if you have some serious point to make, the thing to do is come out and make it, instead of insinuating with a cheap shot.
DeleteWe might never agree on much, Feser, but I'll give you one thing - you do have principles and you stick by them, even though it would be the easiest thing in the world to abandon them to the MAGA mob.That takes some real courage, and I celebrate that. It's one thing for me to call these people violent morons, but for someone who has to share his side of the political aisle with them, that's strength.
ReplyDeleteToo many commenters criticizing Dr. Feser's orthodox and extremely well-reasoned application of Just War Doctrine are yet more examples of the very poor catechesis that has been part of the Church's ongoing problems at least since the time of Vatican II.
ReplyDeleteAnd what is both laughable and sad at the same time is that many people afflicted with relativism act as if Just War Doctrine is up for grabs in terms of interpretation despite the perennial and unchanging principles used by the Church since at least the time of St. Augustine (and which Dr. Feser has faithfully set forth on several occasions), and rightly taking into account the understanding that the passage of time and development of technology never change principles as some people also stupidly argue while pretending to be wise.
Indeed, too many yahoos who act as if they know Church teaching on Just War Doctrine simply promote the objectively erroneous Good or Desirable Ends Justify Immoral Means evil principle, and those deeply lost in this immoral corruption of their thinking hypnotize themselves into believing that objectively immoral means have actually "transitioned" themselves into moral or at least "acceptable" means if they can point out or simply argue how bad or evil some people are that provides an artificial "right" to use such means against them.
And so too many people actually promote flat out murder of the innocent (they join those who promote murdering the innocent in the womb with their own coterie of rationalizations that make Satan smile) if they live in a country where their leaders are evil, and some will even pay lip service to the notion that they are "unintended collateral damage" despite the indisputable fact that the nature of the attacks, no matter how they have "pinpointed" military targets, automatically bring about much more direct damage than Just War Doctrine properly permits as unintended collateral damage.
These same people still maintain that the immoral dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were justified despite by their nature being unable to avoid directly killing (i.e., murdering) the innocent. Some will point to "my grandfather was in the war and he told me it had to be done yada yada yada, along with the classic "it saved more lives in the long run" myth, once again employing the bogus principle that desirable ends justify immoral means.
To be sure, Dr. Feser has carefully and accurately set forth Objective Just War Doctrine, and he has clearly demonstrated how the actions in Iran objectively violate Just War Principles, thereby rendering the actions unjust and sinful regardless of any outcomes, good or bad. All those who oppose Dr. Feser's faithful presentation and application of Just War Doctrine are either egregiously ignorant of the unassailable Church teaching, or they practice and/or preach the hideous modus operandi that proclaims 'desirable ends or outcomes justify any means to achieve them.'
Egad! you're shilling for Feser as ridiculously as EXE usually whines against him. Yeah, Feser is a faithful Catholic thinker, and has (in the past) well stated Just War Doctrine. But get real: It's not called "Objective Just War Doctrine"; he's applying the Church's general principles to messy facts and may have either missed important facts or misjudged hard-to-weigh facts; and plenty of the criticism here embraces the same Just War Doctrine Feser has at other times explained, objecting on other grounds.
DeleteI see you're quoting CNN and abandoning facts and actual reason. It's become too political for you. Such a shame. I used to trust you for reason.
ReplyDeleteI find Prof. Feser's post mainly rightly oriented but not very well argued - like he did this without adequate attention to detail.
ReplyDeleteFast forward just eight months and an administration official was issuing the dire warning that Iran was “probably a week away from having industrial-grade bombmaking material”
Some third-rate flunky in the administration is running his mouth off. Trump wasn't claiming this, he was more reserved: the current missile arms are a shield protecting their ability to further develop toward nuclear capability - clearly a long range threat, not "a week away". Yet as such, this threat does not come close to passing the sniff test of a just cause.
President Trump claims that “our objective is to defend the American people by eliminating imminent threats from the Iranian regime.” This is absurd. There is no imminent threat to the United States, and no evidence for one has been produced.
This is careless: Americans have been recently attacked and threatened by Iranian proxies, e.g. by Houthis, by Hamas, and others. Maybe these attacks are not sufficient for the claims of just war (it requires the threat to be "grave"), but that's a different argument.
Nor, in any event, does Iran pose any nuclear threat to the United States.
Obviously, Iran poses no near threat of delivering a nuclear-tipped missile to the US. However, (a) that's not the only way to deliver a bomb, (b) they can deliver a bomb by missile to US holdings, bases, and people in closer places. Is this sufficient for just cause? Perhaps not. But some of those closer places are specifically military bases needed to contain the threat of Iran and are already targeted - which might just mean that there is a situation of lukewarm war already in existence, which would change equations all over. The comment is far to simplistic, not even argued, just asserted.
If it poses such a threat to Israel, Israel is perfectly capable of handling the problem on its own.
This is silly. Just for example, Israel doesn't have the bunker-busting bomb capability we used in June. Secondly, allies generally work cooperatively. Now, maybe we SHOULD NOT be allied with Israel in their conflict with Iran (and much more probably we should seek Congressional approval for any explicit alliance in this fashion), but again that's a different issue. It is morally legitimate to help out an ally in their war if they have a just war. So you would have to argue that Israel's war is unjust. Might be true, but Feser didn't argue it.
The administration’s defenders will nevertheless insist that war is justified because Iran could someday pose a threat to the U.S.,
Yeah, that's not a just cause. It's not even in the FORMAT of a just cause.
The president also claims to be motivated by a desire to free the Iranian people from a tyrannical government. In the abstract, that can certainly be a just war aim. But it is not by itself enough for a just cause for war. There needs to be some specific, well thought out plan for achieving this aim.
ReplyDeleteNo, you've run into a DIFFERENT criterion of just war, different from having just cause. Freeing the Iranians from an evil, despotic tyranny that is internationally destabilizing IS a just cause. But other criteria must be met as well. Sloppy presentation.
One can quibble over the extent to which the Constitution and War Powers Act give the president discretion to deal with imminent threats and small-scale, short-term operations. But with Iran, we face no imminent threat, and the prospect of a major conflict aimed at regime change. It is manifestly precisely the sort of thing the Constitution means to permit only after congressional deliberation and approval.
Again, poorly presented. Yes, the Constitution IS meant to restrain the president, and yes, Trump has himself called this a "war". He shouldn't have done it, and he shouldn't have considered himself free to interpret (ignore) the Constitution so glibly.
Feser should have quoted the War Powers Act and noted where Trump exceeds its license. The Act allows the president to introduce US forces into hostilities under "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces." The Houthis, Iranian proxies, have attacked US forces. I DON'T think this constitutes a national emergency, but you have to argue the issue, not just glibly assert it, because there are complicating factors.
I don't think Trump has a just war, but this could have been better argued.
Tony, it is so amusing to see people tell Prof Feser how he should argue.
DeleteFurthermore, as other said above: while Trump hasn't explicitly said so at THIS time, his larger aim in ALL of this is to defang China, which is the true strategic threat to the US. China isn't right at this moment fighting us, but they clearly are gearing up to doing so. Trump's activities have had faced this strategic issue from all sides, e.g. the Venezuela actions were taken in part not deny China that oil. Iran was also working with China, which Trump has now crimped quite well.
DeleteNow, it's probably a stretch to say that the threat from China is a "clear and present danger", speaking from generally known public info, but Trump probably has better info. War over Taiwan is sort-of imminent - there's a fog that China has created to make it hard to say. That doesn't mean troubles with China implies he has just cause to invade Iran, I'm not saying that. And I don't know that China attempting to take Taiwan by main force would be a GOOD (prudent) cause for US to fight (if we had congressional approval), though it would be a just cause. I'm saying that it's very complex, there's a lot of REAL fog (in that not only is there lots of stuff Trump is bloviating about, but there's lots of stuff that China experts are saying is difficult to assess), but it's extremely touchy and simply assuming that China is not an imminent threat is also not warranted. There's...complications.
The fact that Trump didn't explain all this in black and white TO US is not particularly significant but he is supposed to do it for Congress, and he hasn't. He isn't doing his job well if he doesn't do it the right way, and that's what we are seeing, seems to me.
Reminder that absolutely none of this would be happening if Britain and the US hadn't overthrown Iran's democratically-elected government in the 1950s in order to protect the interests of Western oil companies. It's remarkable how often people forget that "terrorism" is usually a response to foreign aggression.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that the whole question of "just war" or "unjust war" is bogus. Politics is driven by power and interests, not by morality. But even from a moral viewpoint it would be immensily stupid to sit and wait until an Iranian attack occurs or Iran reaches nuclear capability. This would be a betrayal of American interests. Si vis pacem para bellum.
ReplyDeleteIt isn't bogus if you believe Christianity is true and the salvation of your soul depends upon the cultivation of charity. Besides, you can't build a credible and sustainable civilization by teaching your children that it is ok to go into diplomacy under a facade or for empires to rob poorer countries simply because "might makes right." And that is essentially what Machiavelli teaches: virtu = strength "unhandicapped" by morality. You can't build a civilization that doesn't devolve quickly into partisanism once you realize that the international principle of anarchy and the Friend/Enemy distinction can be reapplied to home.
DeleteKash Patel FBI Director fired members of the FBIs Iran Counterintelligence Unit. That was great timing now that we are at war with Iran.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.cnn.com/2026/03/03/politics/patel-fbi-national-security-division-firings-iran
History has not justly evolved.
ReplyDeleteTruth is not always tasteful or welcome, but it is still the truth. It takes courage to say the truth, especially in the face of a large amount of criticism.
ReplyDeleteThank you for this post, Ed. Stay strong!
Justice is a notion, of our making, based on Interests, Motives and Preferences. It is an idea, aimed at our understanding of how we ought to treat one another, based on what ancestors understood. Whether the unfolding of history has been *just* or *unjust*, is a matter of our making. Were we wise enough, we would surely have figured that out, by now. I guess not...
ReplyDeleteThe West has a long history of meddling in the Middle East. In 1953, the US and Britain helped engineer a coup of the government of Iran.
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
We know more facts relevant to the just cause element and the likelihood of success element than we did when Ed made his original post. First, the Iranian regime had evaded the requirements in President Obama's deal and acquired enough material for 11 nuclear bombs. They were proud of this. This is relevant to the just cause requirement.
ReplyDeleteSecond, the U.S. and Israel had intelligence that they could eliminate the top Iranian leaders in one blow. This is relevant to the likelihood of success element. Third, some leaders of the Arab states had become convinced that Iran was not going to negotiate and the U.S. had good intelligence that they were not going to support Iran in the conflict (again affecting the likelihood of success element). The second fact seems pertinent to the just authority element also. If a rare opportunity such as the top Iranian leaders meeting together presents itself, the President would surely have the authority to make the decision without consulting congress. [Others on this blog claim that the President had the requisite authority even without that opportunity.]
As I mentioned in previous comments, a leader can do the right thing for the wrong reason. It is not wrong for third parties to celebrate the right thing even if it was done for the wrong reason. We do not know for certain how events will shake out, but I am optimistic that the world will be better than it would have been if the U.S. and Israel had not taken these actions against Iran.