Update on Immortal Souls
Immortal Souls has at last been reduced from
potency to act. The official publication
dates are in June for Europe and July in the United States. Pre-order is now possible at Amazon’s websites
in
the U.K. and in
Germany. It should be available for
pre-order soon at Amazon’s U.S. website, and I’ll let you know when it is. You can find the table of contents and
endorsements here,
and other details at the publisher’s
web page.
Any update on when it will be available in Australia?
ReplyDeleteHave you been approached yet about any media appearances/interviews about the book? Could you share details?
ReplyDeleteDr. Feser, when be reduced from potency to act in Amazon's website in Brazil?
ReplyDeleteHow about appearing on EWTN with Fr Pacwa?
ReplyDeleteCurious that Dr Feser claims it has been reduced from potency to act with publishing happening in June and yet it is still May.
ReplyDeleteAre we to take it that our esteemed host has adopted a B-theory of time?
(This is a joke).
Will there be an electronic version?
ReplyDeleteSo, God created humans as immortal souls even though he knew they would fall and that would necessitate eternal conscious punishment? And he did so despite his undoubted ability to create them mortal and despite his revelation that he DID in fact create them mortal eg "from dust YOU came and to dust YOU shall return" , "do not trust in mortal man... his spirit departs he returns to the earth in that very day his thoughts perish", "the soul that sins it shall die" "the soul is in the blood" etc.
ReplyDeleteGod bless Prof Feser but is this soon to be released book not what the apostle and teacher of the Gentiles warned about when he said "see to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy "(Colossians 2:8)?
Everything that you listed here which you imply to be morally abhorrent is plainly apparent in scripture, no philosophy needed.
DeleteOn the contrary:
DeleteLuke 16: There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire...‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
John 11: (different Lazarus) When he had said these things, he cried with a loud voice: 'Lazarus, come forth.' And presently he that had been dead came forth, bound feet and hands with winding bands; and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus said to them: Loose him, and let him go.
Maccabees 12:46: It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.
Each quote you cite has a better explanation than the one you urge. For example: "the soul that sins it shall die". Consider Genesis 2:17:
But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat. For in what day soever thou shalt eat of it, thou shalt die the death.
But on the day that Adam and Eve disobeyed and ate of the fruit, they did not die. At least, not the death of the body. What death did they die?
1 John 5:16-17: If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
Mortally grave sins are sins unto death: they produce the death of the soul, understood as the loss of God's indwelling presence, which is the life-giving Spirit. Thus there is the death-of-the-body, wherein the body returns to dust, and there is death-of-the-soul, wherein the soul loses the presence of God. Adam and Eve died on that day the death of the soul, but remained alive physically. Conversely, Lazarus (Jesus's friend) was raised from the dead, which necessarily means that he was physically dead but his soul persisted.
Yet the scripture states that the soul does die and is mortal and it states it repeatedly in no uncertain terms. In contrast you can only offer a story of Jesus that is internally inconsistent eg Lazarus is alive in Hades YET "if they will not believe Moses and the prophets they will not believe if someone is raised from the dead". So the Lord on the one condemns unbelief in the Torah and prophets yet espouses a position that is in diametric opposition to the Torah and prophets namely that the dead are conscious in the grave!! Not only that but he offers a startling new revelation therefore to the Pharisees whom he labeled "fools and blind". Note that even his own parables he declared to be instruments of judgement and blindness (Matt 13:10-17)
DeleteAdam and Eve didn't die because of Genesis 3:21. But even if we accept that they had to die that very day it's still not in conflict with the mortality of the soul. They were shut off from the tree of life and entropy took over.
I repeat God could have created them mortal and he knew man would fall necessitating eternal conscious punishment if he didn't create them mortal YET according to you he nevertheless created them immortal thereby ensuring their eternal misery! Then he misinforms us throughout scripture!
Apparently, there is no successful communication between those who would say "see, Scripture contradicts itself at X and Y, so your belief in X part but not Y part is a repudiation of Scripture." and those who would say "it may appear that Scripture at X and at Y contradict each other, so belief in Scripture implies working at them to discover an interpretation that understands both X and Y as true, even though that may mean taking Y as in a sense that is not the most straightforward sense at first."
DeleteIt's now up on Amazon's US site - https://www.amazon.com/dp/386838605X/ - Dr. Feser, any idea of if/when it may be out on Kindle?
ReplyDeleteAmazon now says to expect the book in October. Anyone know whats going on?
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