tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post8866144510779204547..comments2024-03-29T05:55:32.588-07:00Comments on Edward Feser: Envy cancels justiceEdward Feserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13643921537838616224noreply@blogger.comBlogger127125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-76663259496307547472023-08-23T14:52:18.956-07:002023-08-23T14:52:18.956-07:001. There are SEVEN deadly sins in Catholic traditi...1. There are SEVEN deadly sins in Catholic tradition and Aquinas and other giants of Catholic tradition have written a lot about all seven of them. <br />2. The 7 Deadly Sins are: Pride, Greed, Wrath, Envy, Lust, Gluttony and Sloth. <br />3. Any article that singles out the sin of Envy as a fault of the non-Rich people (or activists on their behalf), in a discussion of Social Justice (originally a Catholic term) and Inequality, and ignores the Sins of Pride, Greed, Wrath, Lust, Gluttony, and Sloth, is, I think, likely to be an article that is imbalanced, skewed, one-sided, politicized, polemical, and defective. <br />4. Envy is a real phenomenon. <br />5. But so are Greed and Pride.<br />6. A long tradition singles out Pride as the most deadly, most powerful, and most corrupting of all the sins. It is said to be the sin that led to Satan’s break with and rebellion against God Almighty.<br />7. Capital sins don't take place only among the non-Rich (and their spokespersons) who are advocating for Social Justice and Equality.<br />8. It may be shocking to some to read this on this blog, but capital sins occur among Rich conservatives, too. <br />9. Many or some of the non-rich (and advocates for them) truly have their faults, their vices, their sins, and their heresies. <br />10. But many or some of the rich (and advocates for them) also truly have their faults, their vices, their sins, and their heresies. <br />11. Any article that only discusses the vices and sins of lower economic classes (and/or their advocates) is bound to be inadequate, skewed, and misleading, even if unintentionally so. <br />12. Another problem I see: This article is written as if Justice is the only virtue.<br />13. Justice is one of the four Cardinal Virtues (Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, and Temperance). These four were developed by the ancient Greco-Roman pagans, as well as by the ancient Hebrews and early Christians.<br />14. But for Christians, there are three more key virtues, the Theological Virtues.<br />15. The Theological Virtues are: Faith, Hope, and Charity (“Charity” means qualities and actions such as: Agape Love; Compassion; Empathy; Generosity). <br />16. So, any discussion, by a Christian, of Social Justice and Equality, that ignores the three Theological Virtues, is also probably going to be narrow, one-sided, incomplete, half-blind, and defective. <br />17. When some activists complain about a lack of Social Justice and Equality, sometimes what they are really complaining about is a general lack of Charitableness (Agape Love; Compassion; Empathy; Generosity) in society, in business, in politics, in educational institutions, in athletics, in law, in governance, and in church fellowship. I.e., they are reacting to a generalized normalization of meanness, selfishness, coldness, competitiveness, aggressiveness, and class snobbery. <br />18. The opposite of a generalized normalization of meanness and coldness is what some recent popes have called a "civilization of love." <br />19. It is possible to have a high degree of the virtue of Justice in a person or in a society but at the same time a very low degree of the virtue of Charitableness. One can be Just but also very cold, uncaring, and unkind.<br />20. Catholic teaching makes very clear that the virtue of Charitableness is by its very nature much more important and central than the virtue of Justice (even though a reasonable degree of Justice remains necessary in any society or person). <br />21. I invite and urge Professor Feser, in his writings and teachings about Social Justice and Equality/Inequality, to include the powerful divine light that comes from knowledge and consideration of all 7 of the Deadly Sins, and of all 4 of the Cardinal Virtues, and of all 3 of the Theological Virtues.<br />22. "Abide in faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love." (1 Corinthians 13:13)<br />Barto of the Oratoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00918583357415568406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-7123538428389106412020-09-04T06:07:47.388-07:002020-09-04T06:07:47.388-07:00Envy is most easily understood by the example of e...Envy is most easily understood by the example of envious women, (feminist), who envy and hate beautiful women who thus are successful with men.<br /><br />Envious men hate good looking, intelligent, men who are successful with women.<br />You don’t find men who are envious of women, you do find women who are envious of men. Was Sigmund Freud on to something?<br /><br />The reality is that some groups are more beautiful and more intelligent than other groups.<br />A group that perceives itself as second-best, naturally will be motivated by envy in their destructive actions against the perceived superior group.<br /><br />Envy against the perceived superior group is the root cause of the White Privilege / White Supremacy scam going on today.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-44376857352453908582020-07-19T18:24:43.018-07:002020-07-19T18:24:43.018-07:00'''Do Brown Black Lives matter...if th...'''Do Brown Black Lives matter...if they're Israelis'''?<br /><br /><br />BLACK, BROWN, WHITE, YELLOW ISRAELIS<br /><br />Since color has become a language somehow, and anti Israel bigots distort, then let's remind, most Israelis are "brown," in terms of stats. You have also many Ethiopian Jews.<br /><br />No wonder the propagandists will never show democratic multiracial Israel in day to day lives.<br /><br /><br />SECURITY VS RACISTS<br /><br />But of course Israeli security concerns are just that. Unrelated to any "color" or "race." Actually, speaking of racism, yes, Arab Muslim attackers target only Jews. Talk about real racism.<br /><br /><br />BACKGROUND ON HIJACKING TERMINOLOGY<br /><br />True, hijacking of term 'it's racism," is as old as Palestine propaganda emerged by holocaust denier Issa Nakhleh who began in June-17-1949 the "like the Nazis and worse than nazis" line (and by Nov-14-1972 said all 6,000,000 were alive and Hitler "didn't" kill, and represented 'Muslim Congress' at Holocaust deniers convention in 1981), then picked up in 1960 by Nazi Tacuara saluter Ahmad Shukairy who by Oct-17-1961 added that garbage-touch apartheid slur too and questioned Catholic Uruguayan rep. Enrique Fabregat's loyalty, stating because he's (supposedly) a Jew. And both, of course were Hitler's ally ex-mufti Islamic leader al-Husseini avid fans. With Shukairy his aide.<br /><br />Speaking of ex Mufti's admirers... Sufi Abdul Hamid, infamous 'Black Hitler' in NY who called to drive out Italians and Jews in the 1929-30, was also his admirer.<br /><br /><br />RE FARAKHANNISTS & FAKE "PRO-" <br /><br />One might begin to argue there is such a thing as "pro Palestine", when Farrakhan linked Ilhan Omar / Linda Sarsour / Rashida Tlaib will have a routine of decrying Arab Muslim suffering when it's not in context of Israel (who has been facing existential threat ever since) but suffering when by Arab Muslim entities. One would then hear about a real en-masse massacre. Such as hundreds of thousands in Syria, current example. And if they begin to do anything along the line, then no lip service please. But with that same "passion" as in fake "symparhy" played at the 'other' case. <br /><br />The absenty reason is clear. Self explanatory. Because pro Palestine is a cover for anti Israel and often anti ALL Jews.<br /><br />A note re L Farrakhan, that guy with his "blue eyes are the devil," when he uttered his "termites" venom, his genocidal hint was clear under the veil. For more about Dehumanization in radical Islamic Arab or even mainstream racist "Palestinian" education and sermons, search for "apes and pigs, Palestinians". Or see PalWatch and MEMRI.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-4306404983240515432020-07-03T14:13:25.475-07:002020-07-03T14:13:25.475-07:00Atno
Sorry I can’t help but feel sorry for you.
...Atno<br /><br />Sorry I can’t help but feel sorry for you.<br /> <br />Well here is another truth that I will give you that you will call insane just like you called 60 billion souls in Hell insane. You showed your ignorance when I proved you wrong on that one and I can prove you wrong on the following that you will also probably show your ignorance…<br /><br />I have personally and righteously condemned about 50,000 people to Hell. <br /><br />I have given everyone a hint twice in my previous comments but I doubt you will discern it.<br />chris griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06388653761805776527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-78899226381994173492020-06-28T13:01:10.583-07:002020-06-28T13:01:10.583-07:001- what is there to address? From "The Church...1- what is there to address? From "The Church has never declared X" it does not follow that X is therefore false. The Church has never declared a number of things, so what? The Church has never formally declared that anyone is in hell, either - do you therefore think universalism is plausible? I think not. <br /><br />2- Yes, there is. Are you sure you're a Catholic? Because if you are, you should know that Scripture is not exactly easy to interpret and we don't simply base our theology on literalistic readings of biblical passages. Setting aside an exegesis that would take such Psalms to reflect David's state of mind instead of perfect descriptions of God's Intellect (remember there are imprecatory psalms and doctrine and practice holds that Catholics are not allowed to use those against sinners, that should tell you something), one could perfectly accept that God hates sinners QUA sinners. That is, the abstract notion of a corrupted individual. But God cannot hate the concrete individual whose natural end is the Good as God Himself established. <br /><br />3- Neither of these passages you quoted mentions that God actually hates any individual. Also, what is the point in quoting Saint Alphonsus while ignoring Aquinas's argument? If it's authority for authority's sake, it is undeniable that Saint Thomas Aquinas is the single biggest and most important theologian of the Catholic Church. I take it that I don't have to reproduce the many documents mentioning the seminal importance of Aquinas, right? With all due respect to Saint Alphonsus, but he's not as influential as Aquinas. Aquinas is, quite literally, the most influential theologian of the Catholic religion. So if your whole schtick is to just quote an authority, I need but remind you that Saint Thomas Aquinas strongly disagrees with you, and you went so far as to (in effect) accuse him of heresy.<br /><br />4- "Hates the sinner who is united with his sin" I am fine with that statement provided we also understand that God necessarily loves the same sinner, in the sense that He wills for the conversion and ultimate happiness of that sinner. Again, God can hate a sinner qua sinner, but He unconditionally loves the individual. You have yet to respond to my or Aquinas's argument. You have completely ignored everything I wrote on this topic - the issue is that, provided that "to love" is to consistently will the good of another, God necessarily and unconditionally loves all creatures. And in the case of rational creatures, God always unconditionally loves them and wills for their natures to flourish with the good and the true. Otherwise He should rejoice in sin, since sin is what corrupts the rational creature, and if God hated the rational creature then He should rejoice to see that creature being further corrupted and having its ends frustrated.<br /><br />You have yet to interact with the argument. Your Satanic view of God doesn't withstand any logical scrutiny. Saint Thomas Aquinas knew that. God must necessarily will the natural ends and flourishing of all rational creatures; ergo, God must necessarily and unconditionally love all rational creatures. Atnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13138424784532839636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-65960602576039269242020-06-28T09:56:24.312-07:002020-06-28T09:56:24.312-07:00Addendum: hatred is intrinsically irrational *when...Addendum: hatred is intrinsically irrational *when applied to positive realities/creatures*. It is not irrational to hate sin, but only because it involves a double negation: sin is the corruption of the good; to hate sin is to will non-being for sin, to will that sin doesn't flourish, etc. <br /><br />It is irrational to hate an individual sinner, because that would be tantamount to willing for an individual rational being to continue perverting his faculties, being vicious, etc. Someone who hates an individual sinner should in fact rejoice in sin, since sin is what attains the evil/corruption of the individual. That's why Satan hates individual sinners, and God doesn't. God only hates sin. He unconditionally loves every single individual, desiring their conversion, salvation, and ultimate happiness. He laments sin, the corruption of individuals. If God (bizarrely) hated an individual, He should desire sin and rejoice whenever that individual sins and further corrupts its nature. Clearly satanic and irrational. Atnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13138424784532839636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-60050026991525081542020-06-28T09:49:41.530-07:002020-06-28T09:49:41.530-07:00Besides effectively accusing Saint Thomas, the Chu...Besides effectively accusing Saint Thomas, the Church's greatest theologian, of heresy, you are completely failing to understand why God cannot hate anyone. You have simply ignored Aquinas's arguments only to quote a biblical passage, mention cockroaches, and then call it a day. You gotta be joking, right?<br /><br />In case you missed, to love is to consistently will the good of another. In the case of rational creatures (which is different from that of cockroaches), that includes the perfection and flourishing of rational faculties of Intellect and Will; to love someone in the most perfect way will include a sincere desire for that rational person to attain the good and perfection of their Intellect and Will - that is, the practice of virtue, love of truth, God, happiness.<br />In short, to perfectly love a rational being is to will for that being to become virtuous and close to God.<br />Sin is only a problem insofar as it perverts that which is naturally good, the rational individual. If we don't love the individual, we cannot even consistently lament their sinning. <br /><br />God UNCONDITIONALLY loves every individual, precisely because God unconditionally wills for every rational person to be virtuous and love Him. If God could hate an individual, He would (logically) have to rejoice in sin, which is an absurdity. <br /><br />In case it's still not clear:<br /><br />To love -> to will the good of another.<br /><br />To love a rational creature -> to desire that that person become virtuous and close to God, the flourishing of Intellect and Will which are made for Truth and Goodness<br /><br />Sinning -> willfully going against the good and the true; corrupting the Intellect and Will; corrupting one's nature in going against its natural flourishing<br /><br />To hate -> the opposite of love; to will the bad of another thing, to will a defect. It is intrinsically irrational.<br /><br />To love a sinner -> to desire that that sinner repents, follows God, starts practicing virtue, etc., ultimately attaining happiness<br /><br />To hate a sinner in this case -> to ultimately will evil against an individual sinner, to desire for that sinner to not repent, but rather be consumed by sin, irrationality, etc.<br /><br />It should be clear, then, why God unconditionally loves everyone. And why God cannot even possibly hate any individual. God can only hate a sinner QUA sinner, which is tantamount to willing that the individual repents and finds truth, virtue and happiness (therefore ceasing to be a sinner). On the other hand, Satan hates sinners. Be careful not to worship Satan.<br />Atnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13138424784532839636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-64101924141694156582020-06-28T09:46:21.387-07:002020-06-28T09:46:21.387-07:00Atno,
I cringe that anyone would believe your pos...Atno,<br /><br />I cringe that anyone would believe your posts so here is my final answer.<br /><br />1. You refuse to address the fact that the Catholic Church has never and will never declare that “God loves everybody all the time unconditionally no matter what”. You are unlearned, unprepared and without wisdom and you run away from this truth.<br /><br />2. There is no cogent rebuttal to “Do I not hate those who hate you, LORD,<br /> and abhor those who are in rebellion against you? I have nothing but hatred for them; I count them my enemies. PS 139. This was written by the Holy Spirit, written by God himself.<br /><br />3. There is no rebuttal possible to the greatest moral theologian in Catholic Church history…<br /><br />“In the Great Deluge in the days of Noah, nearly all mankind perished, eight persons alone being saved in the Ark. In our days a deluge, not of water but of sins, continually inundates the earth, and out of this deluge very few escape. Scarcely anyone is saved.”<br />-- St. Alphonsus Liguori<br /><br />“God loves all those who love him: I love them that love Me.”<br />-- St. Alphonsus Liguori<br /><br />4. This greatest giant of moral theology rightfully directly contradicts Aquinas…<br /><br />God cannot but hate sin, which is his enemy and diametrically opposed to his will; and therefore, in hating sin he necessarily hates the sinner who is united with his sin.<br />-- St. Alphonsus Liguori<br />chris griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06388653761805776527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-45440670825348966162020-06-27T17:03:59.181-07:002020-06-27T17:03:59.181-07:00Professor
Thanks for the clear explanation of env...Professor<br /><br />Thanks for the clear explanation of envy. And how it differs from jealousy. I found them very helpful.<br /><br />xavier<br /><br />xavierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15924047562026242210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-32642912304782749662020-06-27T14:26:57.761-07:002020-06-27T14:26:57.761-07:00Don,
I'm not sure how I feel about a hypothet...Don,<br /><br />I'm not sure how I feel about a hypothetical all-white dating site, frankly. The reasons someone might use an all-black dating site seem different to me than why one might join a black business association.<br /><br />I used "protester" to indicate context matters. There is no reason to be ashamed of being white or black, any more than you would be ashamed of being short or tall, brown or red hair, hairy or bald, etc.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-61454134978436709642020-06-27T10:24:37.745-07:002020-06-27T10:24:37.745-07:00One Brow,
I don't think I've ever seen da...One Brow,<br /><br />I don't think I've ever seen dating sites associated with power but either way I'm over my quota for time spent on the subject of dating sites.<br /><br />If you want to change "All people" to "Protesters" or something else then that's a different issue. My only claim is that I don't hold the following statement to be true<br /><br />All people who say 'I'm proud to be white' are racist.<br /><br />Again if someone else believes that statement to be true, fine. We just disagree.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02237587645426393407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-80653409596316325542020-06-27T09:12:05.177-07:002020-06-27T09:12:05.177-07:00Don,
I don't disagree at all that black people...Don,<br /><i>I don't disagree at all that black people receive racist comments on integrated dating sites. No one should have to endure that. But this will happen in every aspect of society in addition to happening on dating sites. This happens in schools. Should black people self-segregate schools in addition to dating sites? (This time the segregation would be self-imposed.) For the record, I'm not against black-only dating sites; never said I was. I'm just also not against white-only dating sites if black-only ones are allowed. But because of the distinction mentioned below I could be talked out of my current position.<br /><br />You make a useful distinction between sanctuaries and exclusive clubs. I do think there is a real distinction there but who decides where that line is?</i><br /><br />Power decides where the line is. When people with social power form an exclusive club, power concentrates instead of spreading. When people with no power form an exclusive club, there is no power to concentrate.<br /><br />Public schools have a purpose of, among other things, creating and sharing power between people with different backgrounds (education is one of the most powerful things you can have in the US, but there are other powers involved as well).<br /><br /><i>If someone's response is "Yes" when asked if they're proud of their race I don't take issue. In regards to white pride in particular I just don't hold the following propostion to be true<br /><br />All people who say "I'm proud to be white" are racist<br /><br />If some else holds that to be true, fine; we'll just disagree.</i><br /><br />Are we talking about casual conversation or in a demonstration? People with signs "Proud to be black" are protesting the negative connotations against black people in society. Since white people don't suffer these connotations, what is the "Proud to be white" protester protesting against/in favor of?One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-13174523223061299262020-06-27T09:03:33.231-07:002020-06-27T09:03:33.231-07:00Mister Geocon,
"White supremacist rhetoric&qu...Mister Geocon,<br /><i>"White supremacist rhetoric" = Disagreeing with Civil Rights ideology = Not wanting white people to be called "barbaric devils" and "bloodsuckers."<br /><br />That's it. </i><br /><br />No, that's not it. You left out your selective use of statistics to claim black people are more criminally minded. You left out your desire to form some sort of ethno-state where European culture does not get questioned. You left out how you refer to people seeking equality as "anti-white". You left out how you believe you are defending "your race". You even left out how you think <i>Quillette</i> is anything other than a haven for racists.<br /><br />If you say that, in your mind, you are not a white supremacist, I believe that's how you see yourself. However, your positions and rhetoric betray such an inner vision.<br /><br /><i>If you consider the implications of these statements to be genocidal/supremacist, then what happens when you apply that to white people?</i><br /><br />Thibodaux, 1887<br />Omaha, 1891<br />Wilmington, 1898<br />East St. Louis, 1917<br />Tulsa, 1921<br /><br /><i>There's no principled way you can make this distinction without turning white people into devils.</i><br /><br />History if full of people of all ethnic groups using their position of power to oppress other ethnic groups. In the US, it's the white people who have the power. Noting their suppression makes them like everyone else.<br /><br /><i>My "white supremacy" lies in the core assumption that white people are just like everyone else. </i><br /><br />So you'll stop using deceptive quotes of crime statistics, which undermines this conviction?<br />One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-84061109311394237202020-06-26T18:51:22.898-07:002020-06-26T18:51:22.898-07:00"They've come to raid your stockings
And ..."They've come to raid your stockings<br />And to steal your Christmas pud<br />But don't be too downhearted<br />It's all for your own good<br />The economic infrastructure<br />Must be swept away<br />To make way for call centres and lower rates of pay..."<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NWB5wdDAyQficino4mlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00805116221735364590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-74881664125693644382020-06-26T18:37:20.213-07:002020-06-26T18:37:20.213-07:00One Brow,
I don't disagree at all that black ...One Brow,<br /><br />I don't disagree at all that black people receive racist comments on integrated dating sites. No one should have to endure that. But this will happen in every aspect of society in addition to happening on dating sites. This happens in schools. Should black people self-segregate schools in addition to dating sites? (This time the segregation would be self-imposed.) For the record, I'm not against black-only dating sites; never said I was. I'm just also not against white-only dating sites if black-only ones are allowed. But because of the distinction mentioned below I could be talked out of my current position.<br /><br />You make a useful distinction between sanctuaries and exclusive clubs. I do think there is a real distinction there but who decides where that line is?<br /><br />If someone's response is "Yes" when asked if they're proud of their race I don't take issue. In regards to white pride in particular I just don't hold the following propostion to be true<br /><br />All people who say "I'm proud to be white" are racist<br /><br />If some else holds that to be true, fine; we'll just disagree.Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02237587645426393407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-63891754467675987532020-06-26T12:36:07.769-07:002020-06-26T12:36:07.769-07:00No one is even trying to imply this to white peopl...No one is even trying to imply this to white people. What we are saying is white people need to stop oppressing minorities and be held accountable for their racism if they are racist. You taking this as demonizing white people is literally what white supremacist do. You just want to get away with hating and oppressing minorities and are mad that you face consequences for it. It's an insult to the oppression that minorities have faced to even think white people are in danger of facing genocide or genocidal talk or language (which again is white supremacist fear mongering used as an excuse to attack and oppress minorities). Seriously research the oppression minorities have faced before even claiming that white people are being demonized or face threats of oppression. But since you can't seem to empathize with minority struggles, I doubt learning this will do anything.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11355883911837676772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-75799369262052928202020-06-26T11:42:03.556-07:002020-06-26T11:42:03.556-07:00Taking the narrow gate passage to mean that God is...Taking the narrow gate passage to mean that God is a moron whose creation is a monumental failure (60 billion rational creatures in hell) is terrible exegesis, especially considering that same passage has never even seen to pose problems to universalists such as Saint Gregory of Nyssa, Saint Maximus the Confessor, Saint Isaac, etc. (And I am *not* a universalist myself, but the point still stands). <br /><br />Don't try to use contentious biblical exegesis to back up your gnostic view of an irrational God who doesn't will the natural and supernatural ends of his rational creatures, i.e., hates His own creatures qua individuals and not only qua sinners. You really have no idea how insane your view is, which is why you're even fundamentally at odds with Saint Thomas Aquinas - himself an extremely "conservative" theologian, and smart enough to know God cannot hate His creatures.Atnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13138424784532839636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-89636317195085436912020-06-26T11:38:07.179-07:002020-06-26T11:38:07.179-07:00Here's a question for the people calling me a ...Here's a question for the people calling me a white supremacist: apply this logic to other races.<br /><br />"If you leave Jews alone, they'll commit genocide on other races." (Hello, actual Nazism!)<br /><br />"If you leave blacks alone, they'll commit genocide on other races." (European Imperialism is b-b-based? /s)<br /><br />If you consider the implications of these statements to be genocidal/supremacist, then what happens when you apply that to white people?<br /><br />There's no principled way you can make this distinction without turning white people into devils.<br /><br />My "white supremacy" lies in the core assumption that white people are just like everyone else. If you think that this is evil, then there's something wrong with you.Mister Geoconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16399252824689527561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-17800945937265132162020-06-26T11:10:57.052-07:002020-06-26T11:10:57.052-07:00"White supremacist rhetoric" = Disagreei..."White supremacist rhetoric" = Disagreeing with Civil Rights ideology = Not wanting white people to be called "barbaric devils" and "bloodsuckers."<br /><br />That's it. People who call me a white supremacist for calling out Leftists for being anti-white and for offering a different solution to the racial divide really need to take a long look in the mirror and wonder "am I the bad guy"? Mister Geoconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16399252824689527561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-40515717872855570672020-06-26T09:57:36.151-07:002020-06-26T09:57:36.151-07:00Atno,
Scientist say there have been 100 billion p...Atno,<br /><br />Scientist say there have been 100 billion people who have ever lived on the earth.<br /> <br />Jesus said…<br /><br />“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it” Matthew 7:14.<br /><br />So 60 billion in Hell is a conservative estimate.<br /><br />The Bible says to be patient with people of little Faith but my patience with your kindergarten posts is at an end.<br />chris griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06388653761805776527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-55898742077139588762020-06-26T07:05:05.775-07:002020-06-26T07:05:05.775-07:00Can we get past the use of the term "uncondit...Can we get past the use of the term "unconditional", please? It is a no-win term for this discussion. It is being used to mean different things to different commenters. <br /><br />Neither Cantus nor I are arguing that God loves the sinner <b>in the very same way</b> God loves the upright person. Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07159134209092031897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-61655558983504878462020-06-26T07:01:58.837-07:002020-06-26T07:01:58.837-07:00St. Thomas says nothing prevents a person from lov...St. Thomas says nothing prevents a person from loving another in ONE sense, and hating him in another sense. "<i>Nothing prevents one and the same thing being loved under one aspect, while it is hated under another.</i>" Hence it is possible to BOTH hate and love a person, as long as it is under different aspects. God (and good human beings) love sinners <i>to the extent that they have goodness</i>, and hate them <i>to the extent that they have defection from goodness.</i> Since all sinners have <i>some degree of goodness</i>, (they have the goodness of existence), God loves all sinners to some extent. Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07159134209092031897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-19934954253214134732020-06-26T06:12:43.880-07:002020-06-26T06:12:43.880-07:00Don,
For instance the fact that there are numerous...Don,<br /><i>For instance the fact that there are numerous publicly advertised black-only dating sites but none for whites. Or that "Black and proud!" is cheered while "White and proud!" is a career ender. Or BET televesion. Whether or not one is for or against any of these is not the issue, but rather the hypocrisy in that it's okay for one race but not another. It's not fair of course.</i><br /><br />White people can go on eHarmony, or Match, or almost any site without hearing race-based comments or being treated as a sexual fetish because of their race, black people need black-only sites to avoid that noise. Saying "Black and proud" is a response to the many messages black people receive that black people are inferior;, "white and proud" has a different meaning because there is no cultural bias to fight against. There are still today a very large number of movies with no significant black characters at all in mainstream entertainment, BET allows viewers to see black leads in entertainment.<br /><br />Of course it's unfair. Most black people would prefer there was no need for black-only dating sites, for saying that they are not ashamed to be black, or for BET. One should not confuse sanctuaries with exclusive clubs, though.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-54888151384818687892020-06-26T05:59:48.680-07:002020-06-26T05:59:48.680-07:00Mister Geocon,
You literally think that anyone who...Mister Geocon,<br /><i>You literally think that anyone who disagrees with you on this question is a white supremacist. So you aren't an objective judge on this matter.</i><br /><br />Among others, I've disagreed with grodriguez, Cantus, Keep Calm and Carry On, and JD, and I don't consider any of them white supremacists based on our exchange. I do think of you as being a white supremacist, because you use white supremacist rhetoric.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-52717668190069805262020-06-26T02:41:16.589-07:002020-06-26T02:41:16.589-07:00Sir Unknown Troll III,
I hope this letter reaches...Sir Unknown Troll III,<br /><br />I hope this letter reaches you. I know the under-bridge mail service is spotty at best. I was sorry to hear that you were mistaken for Shrek again. I know how much you despise ogres on account of their "book learnings". Reading is hard but stick with it. Please try to remember to breath constantly. It seems silly but it's necessary for life. If you need anything don't hesitate to write back.<br /><br />Your friend, better than you in every way,<br /><br />DonDonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02237587645426393407noreply@blogger.com