tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post7433314794385519218..comments2024-03-28T21:43:44.433-07:00Comments on Edward Feser: Very informal fallaciesEdward Feserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13643921537838616224noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-84849158703959000512010-10-16T04:36:57.464-07:002010-10-16T04:36:57.464-07:00what about the fallacy of "ad infant-itum&quo...what about the fallacy of "ad infant-itum"? claiming support for an idea because "even a child knows it". forgetting the fact that these same children eat their boogers.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17748421762104670396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-77033074685401650452010-10-14T10:39:02.763-07:002010-10-14T10:39:02.763-07:00Although I note that you call Naomi Klein "cu...Although I note that you call Naomi Klein "cute"<br /><br />Shurely shome mishtake?Mr Vealehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12931446615905211560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-17231543185252513272010-10-14T10:37:24.113-07:002010-10-14T10:37:24.113-07:00romishg
I'm glad that we agree on an essenti...romishg<br /> <br />I'm glad that we agree on an essential point. If the "red hairring" worked for Naomi Klein, all rational dialogue would break down and civilization would collapse.<br /> <br />Mind you, it seems to work for George Clooney and Matt Damon...so half of western civilization has fallen to the fallacy...<br /> <br />If they can bring Christina Hendricks on board, it could be over for the West!<br /><br />GrahamMr Vealehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12931446615905211560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-88843491093462612862010-10-14T08:09:48.895-07:002010-10-14T08:09:48.895-07:00reducto ad nomen
The fallacy where one claims to ...reducto ad nomen<br /><br />The fallacy where one claims to have defeated your argument, simply by naming the "school of thought" from whence it was first devised.phil_stylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-64861178862711904552010-10-13T18:50:33.437-07:002010-10-13T18:50:33.437-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-77690558075583037392010-10-13T14:30:25.673-07:002010-10-13T14:30:25.673-07:00There's always the political Left's favori...There's always the political Left's favorite, i.e. the fallacy of the undistributed middle class, i.e. the presumption that if X is a Republican policy, then X must be aimed at making the rich much richer, the poor much poorer, and the middle class non-existent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-25752765533782140562010-10-13T14:10:50.625-07:002010-10-13T14:10:50.625-07:00Naomi Klein? Hot?
Didn't say hot.<i>Naomi Klein? Hot?</i><br /><br />Didn't say hot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-13868005888396760682010-10-13T13:55:00.605-07:002010-10-13T13:55:00.605-07:00I'm a little surprised that no one has mention...I'm a little surprised that no one has mentioned the ad homonym attack, which is one that sounds like something that made sense before...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-33064285699107661262010-10-13T11:52:10.484-07:002010-10-13T11:52:10.484-07:00Red hair-ing: Believing that something is true sim...<i>Red hair-ing: Believing that something is true simply because a really hot redhead said it. Example: “Omigosh, Christina Hendricks is so hot. I would totally believe anything she says.”</i><br /><br />My very weak contribution is the <i>False Dye Lemma</i> - a subsiduary proposition which holds that it's <i>so</i> not the same if the colour's fake.BenSixhttp://bensix.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-49973678814231166972010-10-13T10:07:16.088-07:002010-10-13T10:07:16.088-07:00Sinai qua non
The belief by militant theists that...<i>Sinai qua non</i><br /><br />The belief by militant theists that faith -- specifically Judeo-Christian faith -- is indispensable for morality.Hugo Schwyzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10701852087396150686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-49288232943398612172010-10-13T10:06:25.272-07:002010-10-13T10:06:25.272-07:00You know - the "question the begging" pa...You know - the "question the begging" paragraph manage to be insanely left and right wing - at the same time!<br /><br />Usually you have to be European to manage that!Mr Vealehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12931446615905211560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-78373423919389353702010-10-13T09:57:20.484-07:002010-10-13T09:57:20.484-07:00I'm with Josh on the Red hair-ring.
Who care...I'm with Josh on the Red hair-ring. <br /><br />Who cares if it's a fallacy! (And I'm sure female bloggers are just as prone to this fallacy! My wife insists that Christian Bale is intelligent and sensitive. This was before she examined the evidence, and after she examined evidence to the contrary!) <br /><br />Naomi Klein? Hot? I have to contest that claim!Mr Vealehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12931446615905211560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-14723618618535369522010-10-13T09:54:20.200-07:002010-10-13T09:54:20.200-07:00I'm not sure this is a logical fallacy, but lo...I'm not sure this is a logical fallacy, but looks like it fits: the <i>"loved lapdog"</i> fallacy. The fallacy that if you spout often enough and loudly enough exactly what you have been told to spout in school, your professors / teachers / leaders / will love you for it and respect your intellect. They may well <i>pamper</i> you, but this is of course done while they quietly maneuver a pillow over your head to smother you when you become sick or disabled or old.Tonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-62475308889217319272010-10-13T08:16:12.157-07:002010-10-13T08:16:12.157-07:00The "appeal to minority" fallacy is real...The "appeal to minority" fallacy is real and it comes right out of the naturalist's playbook. How many times have we been told that some bizarre, counterintuitive "explanation" of the mind is rationally obligatory because it comports with what "science" says? And, of course, it is simply presumed that "science" invariably conflicts with common-sense and with popular opinion. Daniel Dennett is a leading proponent of this strategy. In his recent book _Sweet Dreams_ he diagnoses the belief in geocentrism as the result of "common sense" and proceeds to argue that dualistic "intuitions" are on the same epistemic footing. Where do you even begin with such rank confusions and historical ignorance? And, sadly, these sorts of claims are rhetorically quite effective.Untenurednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-3236085998413199872010-10-13T05:47:20.536-07:002010-10-13T05:47:20.536-07:00The Red Hairing fallacy should be a species of a l...The Red Hairing fallacy should be a species of a larger category to describe the spate of cute, young and clever women, fast-tracked to the top of their respective careers that have cropped up in recent years to include examples like Naomi Klein and her thesis that brutal dictators are just fine as long as they are not for free trade. Or journalist Ann Curry who asked Rick Warren if he would change his mind about homosexual acts if it were proved that people were born with that desire. He replied that no he wouldn't because just as he was born with a desire to have sex with every beautiful woman he saw, it doesn't make it <i>right</i>. She had a look like a gorilla asked to do vector calculus. Or Maureen Dowd, who...err...scratch the young part and frankly the best response to anything she says is "Catherine Zeta-Jones <i>Douglas</i>".<br /><br /><br />Scott W.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-64515613326793762222010-10-13T00:39:00.426-07:002010-10-13T00:39:00.426-07:00I know this is off topic, but have you seen Jerry ...<i>I know this is off topic, but have you seen Jerry Coyne's latest piece on the incompatibility of religion and science (see Siris)? I'd be curious to know what you think of it.</i><br /><br />One bit of oddness to keep in mind about Coyne is that for all his bluster, he also has repeatedly stated that belief in the existence of God is entirely compatible with science. But, he says, this God must be an entirely Deistic God - no intervention in the universe, no plan for it, nothing. Even starting up the universe and letting it unfold according to a plan is disallowed, if I recall him right.<br /><br />That, to me, is a pretty incredible position to hold.Crudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04178390947423928444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-21094542461822216772010-10-12T23:53:49.953-07:002010-10-12T23:53:49.953-07:00I'd be ok with the "red-hairing." T...I'd be ok with the "red-hairing." That chick could probably talk me into just about anything.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03854212736162113327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-46408976082365141762010-10-12T23:49:43.458-07:002010-10-12T23:49:43.458-07:00Great post, as usual.
I know this is off topic, b...Great post, as usual.<br /><br />I know this is off topic, but have you seen Jerry Coyne's latest piece on the incompatibility of religion and science (see Siris)? I'd be curious to know what you think of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-60578384969364550062010-10-12T23:46:31.037-07:002010-10-12T23:46:31.037-07:00Kristor:
Very clever. I'm assuming Peter Sin...Kristor:<br /><br />Very clever. I'm assuming Peter Singer also works in this instance?<br /><br />There is also, of course, the <i>real</i> naturalistic fallacy, as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-49078885366515421852010-10-12T22:53:51.413-07:002010-10-12T22:53:51.413-07:00Then there's productio ad absurdam: the notion...Then there's productio ad absurdam: the notion that if the doctrine you espouse leads to absurd or unthinkable consequences, why then it is far more likely to be credible - or cool, at any rate.Kristornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-66422095874024287682010-10-12T22:51:29.748-07:002010-10-12T22:51:29.748-07:00This is what I will miss, now that I am banishing ...This is what I will miss, now that I am banishing myself from this blog, for having been unanimously convicted of trolling on the previous post.<br />Prof. Feser, at least teach the future philosophers to retain their humanity, even as they become more and more mere adjuncts to Latin dictionaries. We need this more today than ever. You rock.<br /><br />(PS. Eminem is a modern prophet. This, alas, is what a prophet looks like today.)The 27th Comradenoreply@blogger.com