tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post2241592263200803373..comments2024-03-29T04:58:54.003-07:00Comments on Edward Feser: Great minds on wokenessEdward Feserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13643921537838616224noreply@blogger.comBlogger144125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-45969619786890315012020-06-29T17:57:04.160-07:002020-06-29T17:57:04.160-07:00God bless DR ANUGE for his marvelous work in my li...God bless DR ANUGE for his marvelous work in my life, I was diagnosed of HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS since 2010 and I was taking my medications, I wasn't satisfied i needed to get the HERPES out of my system, I searched about some possible cure for HERPES i saw a comment about Dr ANUGE , how he cured HERPES with his herbal medicine, I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my health, he sent me the medicine within 3days. I took the medicine as prescribed by him and 2weeks later i was cured from HERPES contact him via email dranuge@gmail.com once again thanks to you Dr ANUGE. cure the flowing virus, contact his email or add him on whatsapp 2348164866838<br />He also told me that he can cure the following diseases:<br />cancer cure<br />diabetes cure<br />ringing ear<br />herpes cure<br />warts cure<br />HPV cure<br />HIV/AIDS cure<br />get your ex back<br />pregnancy herbal medicine<br />prostate enlargement<br />Hepatitispatrick morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01952525098884954092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-35579979032793474212020-06-22T12:00:17.289-07:002020-06-22T12:00:17.289-07:00Hi TN,
I tend to treat blogs like this as a conse...Hi TN,<br /><br />I tend to treat blogs like this as a conservative "safe space," so to speak, so I feel like I've relinquished the right to start breathing fire if I come here. Sometimes that means letting myself get kicked in the face (though admittedly less often than I'd expected), but I'm not the one getting kicked in the face this time. I can't tell Wretched not to be angry--I think he has every right to be. If I read his initial comment correctly, he's upset to see conservatives focused on criticizing identity politics rather than actually constructively discussing race in a time of crisis. I think that's a legitimate criticism, and that the initial anonymous response to him was pretty ugly.<br /><br />I also think that you've been treated badly throughout this whole conversation. Your initial error was to use a handful of black conservatives to build what I assume you thought was a more nuanced picture of the views of the black community instead of engaging with what the person in front of you (Wretched) was saying. I've been quiet on this issue for personal reasons, but I'll share them since the role reversal involved might help you understand the problem a bit better: I'm a left wing feminist with a somewhat more traditional approach to sexual ethics, so what I have to worry about is liberal rather than conservative men parading "what other women think" to try to invalidate my views. I have a zero tolerance policy for this sort of thing, but I'm also uncomfortable with the way that conservative men will sometimes leverage these sorts of internal debates for rhetorical value. Something similar is going on here--there are legitimate debates going on within the black community, and I think it's important to be aware of the fact that this sort of ideological diversity does exist, but Wretched himself almost certainly already knows about this. I do think that white progressives need to be reminded that there is a significant conservative presence in the black community, and that referring to them as "sell-outs" is just another form of colonialism, but Wretched himself doesn't need to be educated on "what other black people think." His experiences are as authentic as anyone else's, and he is the one asking for dialogue right now. Understand that he is angry, and try to talk with him, not at him. <br /><br />Beyond that, does Edith Stein not count as a Thomist? I thought she was just a continental rather than analytic Thomist. I lean more continental myself, so while I find the precision of the analytic side of philosophy of religion really useful, at the end of the day I tend to gravitate back in the opposite direction. I'm not a Thomist, so if I were to attempt some sort of theological approach to something like racial tensions, I'd probably ground it in Augustine instead (or go straight for the Prophets), but it should be possible to get a good analysis off the ground.Hypatiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06431790700424358279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-51365643102473964772020-06-22T06:22:24.022-07:002020-06-22T06:22:24.022-07:00T N,
For example, Wretched's claim that anyone...<br />T N,<br /><i>For example, Wretched's claim that anyone on this thread argued that blacks are genetically disposed to commit crimes (no one made such a claim, and I certainly didn't). Or One Brow's question begging reply to my argument against systematic racism in the Freddie Grey case by merely assuming it to be true.</i><br /><br />I don't believe it was in this thread, but off the top of my head Mister Geocon has made claims about disposition. Referring to systemic racism as being present or not in a single case is like focusing on whether or not a particular rocket flew through an atmosphere. <br /><br /><i>Why can't the discussion start from different premises without all the conversation stoppers?</i><br /><br />If we don't start from reality, we don't go to realistic places.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-15784514790556637632020-06-22T05:44:02.434-07:002020-06-22T05:44:02.434-07:00Hypatia,
I think the trajectory of Edith Stein...Hypatia,<br /><br />I think the trajectory of Edith Stein's thought is found in the corpus of John Paul II. I'm not a critic of Phenomenology as are most analytic philosophers; quite the opposite actually. But it can't manufacture what isn't there, or make fallacies not fallacies. For example, Wretched's claim that anyone on this thread argued that blacks are genetically disposed to commit crimes (no one made such a claim, and I certainly didn't). Or One Brow's question begging reply to my argument against systematic racism in the Freddie Grey case by merely assuming it to be true. When the discussion starts from these premises, the deck is stacked from the start. Why can't the discussion start from different premises without all the conversation stoppers?T Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06287822708519943071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-39446800961816939532020-06-21T16:07:19.576-07:002020-06-21T16:07:19.576-07:00@Wretched,
It really isn't just conservatives...@Wretched,<br /><br />It really isn't just conservatives who have a problem with 'wokeness.' I only have an outside view of a group like BLM, so can't comment on it, but I've seen ideology and rhetoric used so often in feminist circles to silence anyone who disagrees, I'm sick of it. I think conservatives should focus more on their own issues, or at least offer constructive criticism instead of just throwing stones in glass houses, but it may well be the case that everyone is better at seeing their opponents' blindspots than their own.<br /><br />That said, I would also be pretty interested in a nuanced Thomistic approach to race that takes the experience of black people seriously. I'm familiar with Thomistic approaches to feminism, like Edith Stein's, or attacks on capitalism, like Alasdair MacIntyre's, but race relations in specific I've never seen and wouldn't really know where to look. I'm not convinced that natural law is a good guide to these sorts of complex social issues--frankly, Aristotelianism makes me nervous in general specifically because of the way it has been traditionally used to uphold rather than dismantle social hierarchies. I suspect you could focus on the ways in which racism prevents people from growing in virtue as morally autonomous agents and ultimately harms social cohesion. The result would still be a fairly conservative analysis, though.Hypatiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06431790700424358279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-56514928412672386332020-06-21T08:12:12.614-07:002020-06-21T08:12:12.614-07:00T N,
Yet despite most of the relevant people invol...T N,<br /><i>Yet despite most of the relevant people involved being black and/or Democrat, Freddie Grey died of “systemic racism”. These examples can be multiplied at length (Michael Brown same situation), but none of that matters . . . just because.</i><br /><br />Do you really think cultural forces can be turned on a dime?One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-38639779521559059212020-06-21T08:10:12.305-07:002020-06-21T08:10:12.305-07:00T N,
Wretched calls for a dialog, and then tells u...T N,<br /><i>Wretched calls for a dialog, and then tells us that his is the only valid opinion.</i><br /><br />The presence of racism has been measured in a variety of ways by a variety of people. To call it's existence "opinion" is like calling evolution "opinion".One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-77155851653138179612020-06-21T05:10:04.193-07:002020-06-21T05:10:04.193-07:00Question the narrative, get assaulted.
When Fredd...Question the narrative, get assaulted.<br /><br />When Freddie Grey died: the U.S. president was black; the Attorney General of the U.S. was black; the Mayor of Baltimore was black; the Baltimore city council was entirely Democrat and mostly black; half the cops arrested were black; the judge that acquitted the defendants was black; the chief of police was black; the assistant chief of police was black.<br /><br />Yet despite most of the relevant people involved being black and/or Democrat, Freddie Grey died of “systemic racism”. These examples can be multiplied at length (Michael Brown same situation), but none of that matters . . . just because. <br /><br />Many blacks (whom I’ve named above) say that it’s time to change the discussion. But they are “sell outs”, and “Uncle Toms”. Question the narrative, get assaulted.<br />T Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06287822708519943071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-3871952844036880492020-06-21T01:52:49.606-07:002020-06-21T01:52:49.606-07:00A search for your quote reveals that nobody but yo...A search for your quote reveals that nobody but you said anything remotely like this. Maybe you want to become a CNN propagandist when you grow up and have to practice deeply dishonest debate tactics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-9306664406773638082020-06-20T17:56:23.039-07:002020-06-20T17:56:23.039-07:00@ First Anonymous
"Wretched is racist for ca...@ First Anonymous<br /><br />"Wretched is racist for calling conservatives racist". Really? That's what you're going for? That doesn't even make sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-74463099321968871552020-06-20T17:14:27.170-07:002020-06-20T17:14:27.170-07:00TN once agains shows his inability actually unwill...TN once agains shows his inability actually unwillingness to take the experiences of black people seriously and continues to humiliate himself. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-66367325240732394222020-06-20T14:32:18.439-07:002020-06-20T14:32:18.439-07:00Wretched calls for a dialog, and then tells us tha...Wretched calls for a dialog, and then tells us that his is the only valid opinion. T Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06287822708519943071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-28397035152380369392020-06-20T14:05:48.163-07:002020-06-20T14:05:48.163-07:00Once again Wretched calls for people to be "...Once again Wretched calls for people to be "judged by the color of their skin" – disgusting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-30885238086912919022020-06-20T13:23:05.141-07:002020-06-20T13:23:05.141-07:00"Black Lives Matter: A Thomist defense."...<br />"Black Lives Matter: A Thomist defense."<br /><br />Is this something Feser could use his considerable analytical mind to write? And w/o a bunch of 'Black people brought this on themselves' or "All Lives Matter" qualifiers that is the staple of conservative commentary? That would be unique. Ed owes me nothing at all but a large part of the continual issue in this country is the refusal to confront and deal with casual, everyday, thoughtless racism. Look at the initial responses to my first comment. <br /><br />Some valiant allies have taken these folk to task ( thank you) but the first accused me of faking my race for anonymous internet likes in the woke olympics ( or some such) - breathtakingly insulting and ignorant but unsurprising. The second, TN, and others, like clockwork, trot out Black conservatives and immediately brings out the trope of Black pathology, as if, by taint of our skin color we are genetically and/or culturally predisposed to crime. A racist worldview impervious to facts because it determines how the facts are viewed in the first place. Notice how any refutation of the myths of Black pathology only leads to a hunt for ever more, finer grained statistics that prove it ( it just *can't be* that Black people aren't uniquely predisposed). <br /><br />It would be great if, instead of a wink and nod to these people, something serious was actually discussed.<br /><br />PSA: We don't need patronizing counseling about 'responsibility.' When do we talk about individual responsibility? With individuals, like everyone else. Individuals don't exist without society and the sociological conditions that underpin it. On those social issues that impacts individuals, we talk about the conditions that need to change. Again, like everyone else. The over prescription of drugs is not just an individual issue, which is why people rightly demand accountability from drug companies and doctors on this subject. <br /><br />Institutional racism is a fact and a societal issue that affects Black people- it manifests itself in a multitude of ways, the most obvious right now, in the over policing and criminalization of Black people. 400 years of legal, violent, societal subjugation did not just evaporate with 52 years of *on the books* equality. <br /><br />Nearly all Black farmers didn't lose their farms because we're genetically or culturally incompetent; they lost it because of racism. Black people aren't still experiencing "firsts" in many areas because prior to them we were inferior. Jackie Robinson wasn't the first Black man capable of baseball. There is no good abductive reason to skip over the actual history and socioeconomic context of Black people in this country to fixate on crime or whatever pathology you invent as somehow defining of us. It is a racist way of thinking.<br /><br />And it'd be in step in the right direction to continually challenge it, not tacitly solicit this commentary ( read *any* discussion that laments 'wokeness' and how quickly conservatives reveal themselves).Wretchedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01006851931109681774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-6649476825257660832020-06-20T10:55:14.954-07:002020-06-20T10:55:14.954-07:00Anonymous,
(1) "You act in a way that can be ...Anonymous,<br /><i>(1) "You act in a way that can be perceived as racist."<br />(2) "You are a racist".<br /><br />Do you see the difference? If you do, you can figure out what can be perceived as twisted in your saying "that rather directly".</i><br /><br />I don't think of racism as a property of a person. It's a type of behavior that people do or do not engage in. We all learn racist tendencies from the racist culture we grow up in. To the degree that "racist" means something as a descriptor of a person, it means that person buys into the racist teachings more freely and exhibits racist behaviors more frequently than non-racists. It's a question of degree.<br /><br />So, I see the difference between those two statements as one of degree, not kind, and don't see one as a twisted version of the other.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-31804279419445611202020-06-20T02:21:47.372-07:002020-06-20T02:21:47.372-07:00(1) "You act in a way that can be perceived a...(1) "You act in a way that can be perceived as racist." <br />(2) "You are a racist".<br /><br />Do you see the difference? If you do, you can figure out what can be perceived as twisted in your saying "that rather directly".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-20794913261813226992020-06-19T06:53:29.609-07:002020-06-19T06:53:29.609-07:00In particular, black people can, and often do, act...<i><b>In particular, black people can, and often do, act in a racist fashion toward other black people.</b><br /><br />Let's call this a twisted attempt to avoid saying that some racists are racist with respect to their own race. </i><br /><br />I thought I said that rather directly. I'm not sure how you see it as "twisted".<br /><br /><i>To actually put this vacuous notion into words would likely result in cognitive dissonance that would be too great even for the seasoned master of sophistry we're dealing with here.</i><br /><br />I see. It's because you are persisting in using a convenient and ignorant notion of what racism is and how it works. Being a social force, racism is something that can be, and is, used by anyone. What is colorism in the black community, if not an expression of racism?<br /><br /><i>Be that as it may. The meaning of "racism" as used by the "progressive" left is a prime example of naked Humpty Dumpty-ism. </i><br /><br />Certainly, different people agree on exactly what the term should mean, as happens with many other words in the English language as used by leftists, rightists, moderates, and anyone else. I'm not surprised that you would take a common phenomenon and attribute it to a particular group you dislike, your selection bias has always operated with impunity.<br /><br /><i>You're halfway there. Not taking a parody to be literally true is the first step. The next step, more important than the first, would be to try and understand the hidden meaning is. </i><br /><br />Sorry, but I'm frankly very bad at hidden meanings, and always have been. I lack some sort of imaginative capacity. I don't create good stories, I was a terrible Dungeon Master, my memories are not filled in, and hidden meanings or other subtle points can fly right by me. If there is a point you want to illustrate to me, you'll have to be more direct.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-53636817741796766752020-06-19T06:36:52.176-07:002020-06-19T06:36:52.176-07:00Talmid,
Anyone can choose to perform arbitrary ca...Talmid,<br /><br />Anyone can choose to perform arbitrary categorization, and if you acknowledge that this can defy common sense, I offer no further argument on that point.<br /><br />The constructive purpose, for me, would be to allow people to flourish and express their reality, rather than to keep their genuine nature hidden.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-70518810583285840362020-06-18T20:59:02.440-07:002020-06-18T20:59:02.440-07:00@One Brow
I mean, what your example shows is that...@One Brow<br /><br />I mean, what your example shows is that sometimes we have epistemological problems, everyone agrees. I don't know much about this particular condition you mentioned, but it seems we should just bite the bullet and say "Yep, that is a man". Common sense, at least on our time, disagree, but saying there are a lot of diferent sexes would be strange in, like, every society i can think of, so you do agree with me that sometimes common sense is just wrong.<br /><br />"Why is it all or nothing here? That serves no constructive purpose, it only limits your thinking."<br /><br />What is a constructive purpose? <br /><br /> Talmidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267925670235640337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-84754400363858559972020-06-18T16:04:44.847-07:002020-06-18T16:04:44.847-07:00Hypatia,
Agreed. Everyone is some mixture of per...Hypatia,<br /><br />Agreed. Everyone is some mixture of personal choice and external circumstance. We all have an obligation to be the best version of ourselves regardless of our circumstance, but that doesn’t mean resignation to unjust circumstances—just the opposite, in fact. I think today there is far too much emphasis on action for action’s sake alone; as if the only value is changing everything all the time: corporate mottos, university mission statements, and the like are all full of tiresome platitudes about “empowering others to initiate change . . . blah, blah, blah”. It’s not that that is necessarily bad, it’s just usually phony virtue signaling.<br /><br /> I think Marxism is a number of serious errors—not the least of which is the reduction of human nature to the economic and reducing history to nothing but conflict. But that’s for another time.<br /><br />Today, I listened to Hughes interviewed by Dave Rubin and I commend him for being a very nuanced and subtle thinker for his age—a rare trait for his generation I’m sorry to say. I find him a nice change from Ta-Nehisi Coates, but that’s another subject too.<br /><br />Thanks for the discussion. I’ll be out for several days now I think.<br />T Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06287822708519943071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-40328270043256925422020-06-18T13:41:25.313-07:002020-06-18T13:41:25.313-07:00Hi TN,
I agree with you that personal choice is o...Hi TN,<br /><br />I agree with you that personal choice is often left out. That's a source of constant frustration for me, since I think the determnistic tendencies of modern left-wing thought are a bit of a Marxist legacy, and it's a dangerous, disempowering sort of reductionism. At the same time, personal choice is often limited in at least a practical sense by circumstances, so I don't think the larger society can say, "Oh, personal responsibility is paramount" without being complicit in some of the problems that people actually face. No man is an island, after all, and it's easy to bring the whole weight of systemic inequalities against someone and then blame them for not being able to overcome them.<br /><br />I'm not familiar with Coleman Hughes, though a little bit of research shows that he's contributed to publications like The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal as well, has spoken out in favor of criminal justice reform and affordable healthcare, and has testified before a House subcommittee. I can't really tell whether he's a conservative or a liberal who just opposes reparations, since black conservatives who are into this issue can be difficult to pin down. (I have a friend who is a black conservative feminist--she's a bit to my right, but as concerned about this stuff as the left-wing activists I know.) I assume he'll be a useful perspective, but I'd recommend paying attention to as many people as possible on this topic to get as broad a view as you can.<br /><br />[reposted since I can't seem to edit.]Hypatiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06431790700424358279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-16554796390352555842020-06-18T13:40:53.652-07:002020-06-18T13:40:53.652-07:00@One Brow
In particular, black people can, and of...@One Brow<br /><br /><i>In particular, black people can, and often do, act in a racist fashion toward other black people.</i><br /><br />Let's call this a twisted attempt to avoid saying that some racists are racist with respect to their own race. To actually put this vacuous notion into words would likely result in cognitive dissonance that would be too great even for the seasoned master of sophistry we're dealing with here.<br /><br />Be that as it may. The meaning of "racism" as used by the "progressive" left is a prime example of naked Humpty Dumpty-ism. By redefining meaning ad hoc the left abuses the warning of Orwell's 1984 as a manual on how to establish their ideal society...<br /><br /><i>Since you have so greatly misunderstand how racism works, naturally I don't take this assessment seriously.</i><br /><br />You're halfway there. Not taking a parody to be literally true is the first step. The next step, more important than the first, would be to try and understand the hidden meaning is. Try it. You'll be surprised, One Brow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-66644493095706958192020-06-18T12:08:46.829-07:002020-06-18T12:08:46.829-07:00Anonymous,
Let me take you through it.
Thank you ...Anonymous,<br /><i>Let me take you through it.</i><br /><br />Thank you for the attempt. Perhaps you can understand why it fails.<br /><br /><i>I'm black, ergo not white. Because I'm not white I cannot have "white privilege", and this leaves only my prejudice in place. </i><br /><br />Correct.<br /><br /><i>But prejudice without the power that "white privilege" grants is not racism which is "prejudice plus power". </i><br /><br />As long you you tap into the power society exerts against non-white people, you are tapping into the racism, even if you do not benefit from the privilege is offers. People of all skin colors can be racist to people of similar and different skin colors. In particular, black people can, and often do, act in a racist fashion toward other black people.<br /><br /><i>That you don't affirm this is hate speech and literally violence. </i><br /><br />Since you have so greatly misunderstand how racism works, naturally I don't take this assessment seriously.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-88373573779767162282020-06-18T07:42:44.181-07:002020-06-18T07:42:44.181-07:00@One Brow
If I identify, for purposes of this disc...@One Brow<br /><i><b>If I identify, for purposes of this discussion, as black, am I still incurably racist?</b><br />I don't see any reason that would change.</i><br /><br />Let me take you through it.<br />I'm black, ergo not white. Because I'm not white I cannot have "white privilege", and this leaves only my prejudice in place. But prejudice without the power that "white privilege" grants is not racism which is "prejudice plus power". Since I am not racist on account of lacking power, I am no longer incurably racist. In fact, without "white privilege" I cannot ever be racist at all. QED.<br /><br />That you don't affirm this is hate speech and literally violence. You have shown that you are a racist and a hater. You need to be banned from this comment section at once.<br /><br /><br /><i>Here's hoping a little application of leftist logic might be ridiculous enough to get through to some of the defenders of the SJW mob. However this is a very small hope.</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-18466737201634268952020-06-18T06:38:52.225-07:002020-06-18T06:38:52.225-07:00Talmid,
Definitions in biology are never perfectl...Talmid,<br /><i> Definitions in biology are never perfectly precise, and these are no exception. Still, they give us some traction in examining whether there are any humans who are neither female nor male.</i><br /><br />No one is trying to take away the clear sexuality of the large majority of people, so of course there is a lot of traction in the usefulness of a binary system. However, my point is that this usefulness is not total, and any system I have seen suggested winds up incomplete or defies common sense.<br /><br />One easily understandable example are people with an XY karyotype and complete androgen insensitivity. They typically form immature sperm cells, but also all the external feature of females (including genitalia), in rare cases including uteri. They are classified female at birth, and usually grow like women, live like women, and act like women in every way you would consider feminine. Would you tell me they are really men because they make incomplete sperm? If you would, do you see how that defies common sense?<br /><br />Life is beautiful, mysterious, and unfathomably complex, and that includes human development. Trying to fit everything into two categories is going to fail, because biology will always defy you.<br /><br /><i>Sure, you can deny that this aristotelian view is true, but them is no surprise that you can't say there are two sexes, since there would not be any, just a bunch of particles doing their thing.</i><br /><br />Why is it all or nothing here? That serves no constructive purpose, it only limits your thinking.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.com