Excellent list, there, Ed. Charlie Kirk was a good exemplar of those virtues. He strongly opposed Nick Fuentes and the groypers (the main subject of Justin Lee's original article) and inspired thousands to live a better life. His last book, Stop in the Name of God, is very good also--all about the benefits of keeping sabbath, whether done on a Saturday or a Sunday.
Really? The Saint Charlie Kirk narrative? The man didn't deserve to die, but the hagiography applied to a petty, intellectually-lightweight culture warrior whose primary contribution to the world was pushing the Overton Window further Rightward sickens me to my stomach.
EXE, What sickens you is that he succeeded in reversing the leftward trajectory that the Overton Window had moved. He had phenomenal courage. He learned from those with greater age and experience; he passed over 30 courses at Hillsdale College, he learned from the ancient, medieval, and modern thinkers. He was an evangelical Protestant with a Catholic wife and he learned from Jewish thinkers. His book on the sabbath emphasizes solutions, and also shows intellectual modesty. If J. D. Vance becomes the next President, as is likely, he will have Charlie Kirk to thank for it. Charlie accomplished a great deal and likely could outdebate either you or I easily.
This is the sort of unmanly behavior he's talking about in the tweet, btw. Others should take note, and not follow EXE's example of limp-wristed whinging.
Hmm. Advice on how to live from an essentialist. I'll pass. Wasted too much of my life already trying to practice what old men thought dead men thought would make me happy, only to find that it did no such thing.
"Wasted too much of my life already trying to practice what old men thought dead men thought would make me happy"... There's your problem. Assuming you're not lying (which I would wager you are, and you're just taking the opportunity to make a rude comment)... assuming that.... you followed all of that advice in hopes it would make you happy? Not in order to be good. Not in order to cultivate something of a higher worth than "being happy". I'll grant you the validity of your rude comment, but it's your fault for treating the advice as being little more than a self help book.
Lovely points Prof... This means a lot to me. I mean to share it on my WhatsApp status, one point at time, each for a day!
A quick question, Anthony on twitter made a quick point about not being arrogant or servile.
Could you briefly elaborate on what behaviour would be considered servile, would it be excessive people pleasing or something like that.
Although at the same time if one were to model the themselves on Christ, I would say it's better to err when in doubt on the side of being servile, the way in which Christ washed the feet of his disciples. So it's better to err on that side. It's more in keeping with masculinity to put oneself at the service of others
"Now this is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about. When his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph,* but before they lived together, she was found with child through the holy Spirit. 19 Joseph her husband, since he was a righteous man,* yet unwilling to expose her to shame, decided to divorce her quietly."
A very relevant biblical passage as well in keeping with the season. If more men could emulate St Joseph's attitude towards bearing pain and suffering, the world would be a better place.
Excellent list, there, Ed. Charlie Kirk was a good exemplar of those virtues. He strongly opposed Nick Fuentes and the groypers (the main subject of Justin Lee's original article) and inspired thousands to live a better life. His last book, Stop in the Name of God, is very good also--all about the benefits of keeping sabbath, whether done on a Saturday or a Sunday.
ReplyDeleteReally? The Saint Charlie Kirk narrative? The man didn't deserve to die, but the hagiography applied to a petty, intellectually-lightweight culture warrior whose primary contribution to the world was pushing the Overton Window further Rightward sickens me to my stomach.
DeleteEXE,
DeleteWhat sickens you is that he succeeded in reversing the leftward trajectory that the Overton Window had moved. He had phenomenal courage. He learned from those with greater age and experience; he passed over 30 courses at Hillsdale College, he learned from the ancient, medieval, and modern thinkers. He was an evangelical Protestant with a Catholic wife and he learned from Jewish thinkers. His book on the sabbath emphasizes solutions, and also shows intellectual modesty. If J. D. Vance becomes the next President, as is likely, he will have Charlie Kirk to thank for it. Charlie accomplished a great deal and likely could outdebate either you or I easily.
This is the sort of unmanly behavior he's talking about in the tweet, btw. Others should take note, and not follow EXE's example of limp-wristed whinging.
DeleteUsing 'etc' four times, 'at the very least', and 'and the like' is not the mark of a writer with a wide vocabulary and compact style.
ReplyDeleteI'll add a further principle:
Delete8. Bear petty criticisms with patience and good humor. Etc. etc.
Hmm. Advice on how to live from an essentialist. I'll pass. Wasted too much of my life already trying to practice what old men thought dead men thought would make me happy, only to find that it did no such thing.
ReplyDeleteA pretty lame ad hominem. Most of what I said could be endorsed by someone whatever he thinks of essentialism.
Delete"Wasted too much of my life already trying to practice what old men thought dead men thought would make me happy"... There's your problem. Assuming you're not lying (which I would wager you are, and you're just taking the opportunity to make a rude comment)... assuming that.... you followed all of that advice in hopes it would make you happy? Not in order to be good. Not in order to cultivate something of a higher worth than "being happy". I'll grant you the validity of your rude comment, but it's your fault for treating the advice as being little more than a self help book.
DeleteEXE,
DeleteDidn't you recently post a comment that you regret the hostility you displayed in the past a this site? And this is you when you're not hostile?
What has made you happy, EXE?
DeleteInteresting reading. 7 is being particularly challenging, but what one can do.
ReplyDeleteI shall translate the list and share with a few friends.
Thanks Ed. Those principles can equally apply to women.
ReplyDeleteLovely points Prof...
ReplyDeleteThis means a lot to me.
I mean to share it on my WhatsApp status, one point at time, each for a day!
A quick question, Anthony on twitter made a quick point about not being arrogant or servile.
Could you briefly elaborate on what behaviour would be considered servile, would it be excessive people pleasing or something like that.
Although at the same time if one were to model the themselves on Christ, I would say it's better to err when in doubt on the side of being servile, the way in which Christ washed the feet of his disciples. So it's better to err on that side. It's more in keeping with masculinity to put oneself at the service of others
But thank you again. These are great points.
"Now this is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about. When his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph,* but before they lived together, she was found with child through the holy Spirit.
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Joseph her husband, since he was a righteous man,* yet unwilling to expose her to shame, decided to divorce her quietly."
A very relevant biblical passage as well in keeping with the season. If more men could emulate St Joseph's attitude towards bearing pain and suffering, the world would be a better place.