tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post1317614566905086521..comments2024-03-28T13:39:03.094-07:00Comments on Edward Feser: Lawlessness begets lawlessnessEdward Feserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13643921537838616224noreply@blogger.comBlogger198125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-48378457909450923012024-01-09T13:26:43.610-08:002024-01-09T13:26:43.610-08:00Wow! For a moment, a breath of fresh air. Feser re...Wow! For a moment, a breath of fresh air. Feser really leaned into the January 6 rioters. <br /><br />Didn’t take long for him to get back to his usual parade of horribles. <br /><br />Sad. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-17890190573245453352021-01-29T05:53:47.326-08:002021-01-29T05:53:47.326-08:00DNW,
A "discussion"?
Yes, and nothing y...DNW,<br /><i>A "discussion"?</i><br /><br />Yes, and nothing your article quoted from their source indicates otherwise.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-24412845549517833402021-01-27T15:12:12.664-08:002021-01-27T15:12:12.664-08:00"StardustyPsycheJanuary 23, 2021 at 4:02 PM
..."StardustyPsycheJanuary 23, 2021 at 4:02 PM<br /><br />NorthCharlton,<br />Indeed, the word "devout", from devotion, is typically associated with a religious belief, whereas humanism is not a religion, rather, simply a viewpoint such that I personally value human life and am opposed to human suffering, in principle equally among humans irrespective of their particulars.<br /><br />Application of a term commonly associated with a religious connotation to a self identifying term was a bit of a joke, yes...."<br /><br />So why are you a humanist? Is it some kind of emotion driven thing? <br /><br />Or, do you think it objectively wrong in some sense to shrug at the writhing death of some annoying person one needn't value and from whom one cannot possibly derive any unique benefit?<br /><br />Such entities, like existence itself are just dead ends and ultimately nothing anyway, according to all the humanist precursor materials I have waded through.<br /><br />Why, for example, should I care (much less sacrifice some interest) if you suffer, as long as your suffering can be kept at arm's length, and I have plenty more congenial associations ready to hand?<br /><br />I agree that some limited number of test cases might be useful in order to advance the medical sciences which might at some point benefit me or someone in my "circle of concern"; but seems rather silly to take the declamatory jibber-jabber of the Humanist Manifestos seriously. The first one couldn't even survive a couple of decades unscathed.<br /><br />Very few people enjoy looking at someone in pain, even if they are unpleasant people. But you can always just look away. What could you possibly owe them?DNWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-10570255286632701332021-01-27T14:51:18.142-08:002021-01-27T14:51:18.142-08:00"Critical race theory is a discussion about t..."Critical race theory is a discussion about the nature of racism."<br /><br />A "discussion"?<br /><br />https://newdiscourses.com/2021/01/what-is-critical-race-theory/DNWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-69599036517238086932021-01-24T08:58:45.466-08:002021-01-24T08:58:45.466-08:00In particular I am opposed to racism, of which cri...<i>In particular I am opposed to racism, of which critical race theory is a form. I have zero personal guilt about being a white male. </i><br /><br />Critical race theory is a discussion about the nature of racism. By the definitions you provide, it can not be racism in and of itself.<br /><br />As a one who accepts critical race theory, I also have zero personal guilt about being a white male. It takes an enormous ego to think yourself responsible for institutional racism, or to be above human nature.<br /><br />As for the rest of your diatribe, it rings hollow coming from a person who supports the killing of innocent people in a police raid when there was no evidence of their criminal involvement.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-62581654344418649652021-01-23T16:02:25.250-08:002021-01-23T16:02:25.250-08:00NorthCharlton,
Indeed, the word "devout"...NorthCharlton,<br />Indeed, the word "devout", from devotion, is typically associated with a religious belief, whereas humanism is not a religion, rather, simply a viewpoint such that I personally value human life and am opposed to human suffering, in principle equally among humans irrespective of their particulars.<br /><br />Application of a term commonly associated with a religious connotation to a self identifying term was a bit of a joke, yes.<br /><br />In particular I am opposed to racism, of which critical race theory is a form. I have zero personal guilt about being a white male. Racism is holding the belief that people are superior or better or inferior or less deserving or less human or more human based on the individual's race. A racist action is an action based on a racist belief.<br /><br />The idea that black Americans cannot be racist due to power imbalances is just a rationalization for black Americans to be racist against white Americans but to not feel guilty about it on the absurd notion that is impossible for black Americans to be racist against white Americans.<br /><br />BLM, the organization, similarly, is by their own admission unabashedly black, not humanistic, and thus racist. BLM, the organization, tacitly approves of violence against law enforcement while avoiding explicitly calling for it in print, but repeatedly failing to condemn violence against law enforcement when it happens or urge their fellow protesters against it.<br /><br />BLM, the organization, repeatedly takes the side of violent criminals, lies about the actions of law enforcement, and seeks to punish law enforcement officers who were in fact doing their duty professionally.<br /><br />Add to this the absurd notion of defunding the police, which Biden rejects, and BLM, the organization, is deeply anti law enforcement.<br /><br />BLM, the organization, was founded by, and continues to be led by, lesbians who have an anti male, anti family, dystopian view expressly seeking to dissolve the family and replace it with child rearing by a community of mothers wherein mothers make the decisions and the word "father" is unmentionable. These simple facts have long been obvious merely by reading their web site. Denial of these facts is a Kellyannish call for alternative facts.<br /><br />Biden, in his inaugural address, called for an end to denial of facts and to begin from a common truth of factual reality. Hear hear. But I am a strongly convinced humanist so I am as opposed to the alternative facts of the SJW left as I am of the Trumpian right.<br />StardustyPsychehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12493629973262220492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-43279056024041674192021-01-22T21:44:21.637-08:002021-01-22T21:44:21.637-08:00Where did Ya'Kov go wrong? Or did the father ...Where did Ya'Kov go wrong? Or did the father do all a man can do to educate his son, yet the son stubbornly rejected wisdom for ignorance?<br /><br />Child of Ya'Kov<br />"The Left hates free speech."<br /><br /><br />“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”<br />― Noam Chomsky StardustyPsychehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12493629973262220492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-19742274540323018512021-01-21T11:43:51.947-08:002021-01-21T11:43:51.947-08:00Star,etcetera,
says he is
" a devout humanis...Star,etcetera,<br />says he is<br /><br />" a devout humanist"<br /><br />He's joking of course. Good joke though.NorthCharltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08119986105908182813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-52804978879667757982021-01-21T06:09:51.958-08:002021-01-21T06:09:51.958-08:00"Despicable criminal human beings burned and ...<i>"Despicable criminal human beings burned and looted before the election."<br />Indeed, BLM, the organization, ... </i><br /><br />That's an odd connection to make, since only one BLM event had violence, and they kicked that organizer out afterwards.<br /><br /><i>Indeed, BLM, the organization, is a racist, heterophobic, anti family, anti male, anti law enforcement, radical hate group.</i><br /><br />Hateful and inaccurate lies.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-15449376223137029692021-01-20T19:11:15.419-08:002021-01-20T19:11:15.419-08:00DNW,
"It is rare that one gets to see so bold...DNW,<br />"It is rare that one gets to see so bold and outright a self-othering performance."<br />Not so rare, even the Republican Senate Majority Leader has put the blame for the maga mob on Trump, his allies in power, the lies they told, and the provocation of Donald John Trump.<br /><br />Listen for yourself if you do not believe me:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZcqj8AH_ss&feature=youtu.be<br /><br />StardustyPsychehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12493629973262220492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-9369419599733706352021-01-20T19:03:39.062-08:002021-01-20T19:03:39.062-08:00Dude January 12, 2021 at 10:06 AM
"Despicable...Dude January 12, 2021 at 10:06 AM<br />"Despicable criminal human beings burned and looted before the election."<br />Indeed, BLM, the organization, is a racist, heterophobic, anti family, anti male, anti law enforcement, radical hate group. <br /><br />I, on the other hand, am pro law enforcement and a devout humanist. StardustyPsychehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12493629973262220492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-85078811449079941682021-01-20T17:26:26.458-08:002021-01-20T17:26:26.458-08:00In the face of link after link of calm and dispass...In the face of link after link of calm and dispassionately delivered evidence, Stardustywhatever shouts:<br /><br />"No, we are reaping what YOU Trump voters sowed. We are reaping the results of the lies and the incitements to violence shouted by Trump, Giuliani, Wood, and all those who glorified violence and, as Bill Barr said, "orchestrating a mob".<br /><br />The rioting maga mob invaded congress, not because of the left or any other such pathetic rationalization, the rioting maga mob invaded congress because of who they are as despicable criminal human beings, the liar in chief, and all of his lying maga minions."<br /><br />It is rare that one gets to see so bold and outright a self-othering performance.<br /><br />Startling as it is, it's gratifying in a way, when all doubt as to what "it" is and where "it" dwells, i.e., beyond the pale of mutuality and reciprocity, is revealed.<br /><br />Explains something about the nature of its hellish track record and obsessions on Ed's blog.DNWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-67550186151661679042021-01-19T13:56:54.504-08:002021-01-19T13:56:54.504-08:00Dina kiss up laddie it is nor dignified. I dina k...Dina kiss up laddie it is nor dignified. I dina kent why you think that would get ye on me good side? OTOH I don't have a good side so there ye have it.<br /><br />Cheers mate.Son of Ya'Kovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645132954231868592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-22120551293266112942021-01-19T02:28:00.014-08:002021-01-19T02:28:00.014-08:00 Son of Yakov Are you Wullie off The Simpsons? Son of Yakov Are you Wullie off The Simpsons?FreeThinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12542926199146156167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-27803831164831187862021-01-18T20:42:15.063-08:002021-01-18T20:42:15.063-08:00Yer still here hypocrite? Sorry but the article m...<br /><br />Yer still here hypocrite? Sorry but the article mostly quoted his Champaign spokesmen and he didn't get on the Mike and condemn the protests till he started slipping in the poles. It was a muted response to say the least. If he was serious he would have been more vocal. Those are just the facts. He didn't call on President Trump to call out the National Guard even once to suppress the riots. His VP and half a dozen leftist Congress persons set up funds to bail rioters out of jail!!! Rioters who burned down people lively hoods & neighborhoods and killed cops including minority ones. I notice you ignored that bit? Not to mention yer hypocritical side has be pushing Russian Collusion delusion since forever. So spare me yer double standards.<br /><br />>Obviously your worldview is entirely tribalist.<br /><br />What part of "Scottish" do ye nor understand ya bleeding Sassenach? I am of a tribe. The Tribe of Free Speech. Yer from the Tribe of suppression of Free Speech so you can clear off.<br /><br />>You'd impeach Joe Biden even with no justification..<br /><br />Wow yer a sociopath here with the hypocrisy. If you can impeach Trump twice without justification then Biden should get it three times or more. Why not? <br /><br />I leave you to the lunacy of yer sick double standards and total lack of self awareness. Not to mention to Swalwell who is still pushing Russian conspiracy theories he can't back up with evidence in between bonking his Chinese spy girlfriend whom he helped escape justice. <br /><br />Go away now hypocrite. Son of Ya'Kovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645132954231868592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-123549168160491542021-01-18T17:51:04.289-08:002021-01-18T17:51:04.289-08:00I have no information to suggest any of the Capito...I have no information to suggest any of the Capitol police were with "the mob"; i.e., the under 100 who broke windows, beat a cop, tried to push past the guarded doorway where Pence was, and generally initiated the violence.<br /><br />Why do you say "it is now becoming clear...?" On the basis of what?<br /><br />One <i>could</i> interpret the police as being "with" the second group that entered the Capitol building; i.e., the ones that were <i>let</i> in, precisely <i>because</i> they were let in. (But you'd have to avoid the implications of their statements to "the others" along the lines of "I don't agree with what you're saying but I agree you have a right to say it.")<br /><br />Now if the former crowd ("the mob") and had been either all-black or all-white, and had been a few offices away from Pence, and chanting about hanging him, and had there been time to request authorization from Trump, then, YES, I agree that they would have asked for and received authorization to use deadly force to protect Pence. Correctly, in my view.<br /><br />There wasn't time, in this case, because when it happened, Trump was still speaking. And, it <i>was</i> a mixed-race group. And, deadly force was used (appropriately, I think, given the circumstances, although I'm very sorry that woman died). Had it been either all-black or all-white, the same would have happened (again, appropriately, I think). Why think otherwise?<br /><br />On the other hand, if Trump had had the information we have now about the other group, which was let in, acted non-violently, shouted some, and left when requested? Would he, knowing that, have authorized deadly force against <i>that</i> group? Of course not. And I can't imagine why anyone would suppose that he would. Certainly, had that crowd been all-black, they'd have been <i>even safer</i> from a threat of deadly force, for obvious reasons. But as it was, that crowd was safe from harm, because their behavior was rowdy but non-destructive.<br /><br />And as for the third, vastly-larger, crowd on the lawn? Are you suggesting Trump would authorize deadly force against his listeners? Deadly force against what? Against people who hung out, ate sandwiches, cheered, and left? His own supporters? Heck, if they'd been all-black instead of the mixed-race crowd they were, I imagine he'd have been pleased as punch. After all, he's been a historically pro-black president.<br /><br />But I continue to see that many folks are unaware what actually happened. Please go check out the eyewitness testimonies from folk like Karlyn Borysenko.<br /><br />Some of you haven't yet learned the lesson of the last five years: There is no news organization in this country; no such entity exists. But, you can piece together a reasonable understanding of events by gathering admissions-against-interest from the various propaganda agencies whose biases you know, and also from independent sources, especially people whose primary interest is apolitically nerding-out about the details.R.C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-8522803614256521912021-01-17T13:33:51.890-08:002021-01-17T13:33:51.890-08:00The USA Today article did in fact link to sources ...The USA Today article did in fact link to sources concurrent with the events, and by Joe Biden himself, not third party spokesmen. But again, you discount all that because who is saying something is much more important to you than what is being said.<br /><br />Obviously your worldview is entirely tribalist. <br /> You'd impeach Joe Biden even with no justification e.g. "high crimes and misdemeanors" just because you want him gone and maybe you can get enough votes. So much for the "rule of law" and "law and order". For you it's all about power.<br /><br />I leave you to the lunacy of twits like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz. I prefer to live in the real world. Good luck fighting reality.<br /><br />GoneFishingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-63209900320300579872021-01-16T23:11:18.693-08:002021-01-16T23:11:18.693-08:00Colin, if you're going to bring up just war th...Colin, if you're going to bring up just war theory, then it's very simple: war waged by the left is, simply put, not just. BLM may claim it was against racism, but by mere virtue of being leftist it actually has no principles, and a non-principled war can't possibly be just. We can see their lack of principles by the way they rioted and looted non-discriminately, and how leftists could simultaneously praise the lootings and claim that the lootings were being caused by right-wing infiltrators.<br /><br />Of course, you'll see much of the same duplicitous behavior out of rightists towards the riot at the capitol. But all this would mean is that this specific right-wing action wasn't just. If anything, however, I'd say that protesting leftist rule no matter how much democratically elected it may be is perfectly fair by itself, because leftism is contrary to sound morality and therefore contrary to justice. Sedition against unjust rulers is perfectly justifiable according to Aquinas in the Summa Theologiae, at least as long as it doesn't cause greater damage to the common good (as happened in both the capitol riot and in the BLM protests). MechaMutohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15312424884885394087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-21027368571370200642021-01-16T23:00:20.902-08:002021-01-16T23:00:20.902-08:00I'd say that a shoe store does more good for t...I'd say that a shoe store does more good for the people than the government. :^) MechaMutohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15312424884885394087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-6279479184855581902021-01-16T12:54:38.363-08:002021-01-16T12:54:38.363-08:00Edit: The Left hates free speech.Edit: The <i>Left</i> hates free speech.Son of Ya'Kovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645132954231868592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-71541767444167313472021-01-16T11:23:45.590-08:002021-01-16T11:23:45.590-08:00I don't believe the article. Show me one posi...I don't believe the article. Show me one positive article from USA Today on Trump in the past four years. They are bias. Also I note you have no sources to cite concurrent with the events.<br /><br />OTOH taken at face value this Jan 2021 article just shows statements from the Biden's champagne. Uncle Bad Touch spend all that time hiding in his basement. He didn't come out get on TV and loudly condemn the violence. Tepid responses from third party spokesmen are not speaking out.<br /><br />Getting on a Mike and calling for the riots to be put down would have worked. But he didn't do that. Trump at least called out the national guard on the capital rioters like he did when yer boyz attacked the Whitehouse. Kamel Toe his sidekick still bailed out leftist rioters including criminals.<br /><br />>But even if that were not the case it would still be a lie that "not a single Leftist will denounce political violence... from the left."<br /><br />No it is the truth as Classical Liberals are not really leftists anymore than ordinary Germans where all Nazis back in the day.<br /><br />Leftist lie and that is the Truth. Classic Liberals aren't leftists. They are being driven out of the party by the AOC's and her ilk.<br /><br />Now clear off. We have nothing to say to each other liar. As for tribes I prefer clans as I am Scottish. I belong to the Clan/Tribe of free speech and free debate. The hates free speech.<br /><br />Assuming the left doesn't keep stealing elections I look forward to 2022 when a new Republican Congress can impeach Uncle Bad Touch the Usurper.<br /><br />Smell ya later enemy tribesmen. Son of Ya'Kovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645132954231868592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-45694708766442003602021-01-16T10:53:25.730-08:002021-01-16T10:53:25.730-08:00Son of Ya'Kov,
Another lie. If you read the ...Son of Ya'Kov,<br /><br />Another lie. If you read the article you will see that Biden DID condemn the riots as far back as May and June with plenty of links to articles "in real time".<br /><br />But even if that were not the case it would still be a lie that "not a single Leftist will denounce political violence... from the left."<br /><br />But I won't wait with baited breath for you to have the intellectual honesty to admit you were wrong. Again, you simply don't care because tribalist loyalty and promotion of tribalist talking points is much more important than the actual TRUTH.<br /><br />GoneFIshingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-57197412997052466942021-01-16T05:47:15.068-08:002021-01-16T05:47:15.068-08:00Sorry but Biden DID NOT condemn the riots until mo...Sorry but Biden DID NOT condemn the riots until months later. I note the article you cite is from this month. What you couldn't find an article in real time? Because there is none. These are the same people who suppressed the news about Hunter Biden's lab top & stop by silently while twatter censored the NYPost. <br /><br />Also Nutty Pelosi and Kamel Toe where encouraging the violence as well as bailing out violent protestors. Including persons with assault and rape charges on their rap sheets.<br /><br />Hypocrite.<br /><br />Leftist lie. Now clear off.Son of Ya'Kovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645132954231868592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-30726236070796010612021-01-15T17:40:15.480-08:002021-01-15T17:40:15.480-08:00Mister Geocon,
That is simply a lie. One of many...Mister Geocon,<br /><br />That is simply a lie. One of many, many right-wing talking points that are likewise simple lies.<br /><br />First, you had me denouncing the political violence just a little ways upthread.<br /><br />Second, it took me all of five seconds to find out that Joe Biden has, indeed, condemned violence at the BLM protests numerous times.<br /><br />https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/07/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-violent-protests-several-times/6576824002/<br /><br />Son of Ya'Kov,<br /><br />Evidently who is saying something is much more important to you than the truth or falsity of what is actually being said. That is the very definition of tribalism.<br /><br />Neither of you, apparently, really care about the TRUTH. Worse yet, you do not see that as a problem.<br /><br />GoneFishingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8954608646904080796.post-87868344360234856142021-01-15T13:39:14.700-08:002021-01-15T13:39:14.700-08:00Mister Geocon,
I'll denounce it. The violenc...Mister Geocon,<br /><br />I'll denounce it. The violence that occurred at the 7% of the BLM protests which were not peaceful was completely improper and criminal, and those criminals should be prosecuted.<br /><br />I'm not familiar with the claims of fraudulent elections, but I will say the elections of 2016 and 2020 were not fraudulent, and anyone who thinks so is engaging in conspiracy instead of reality.One Browhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938816242512563561noreply@blogger.com